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  1. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    The OP's main point is that as a supporter of over 50 years he doesn't want anything to threaten the Glory Years we are currently experiencing.

    The name-change issue is important and all respect to those who want to express strong views, but the priority for most supporters is and will always be the success of the club.

    CTWD have the right to protest, but they don't have a mandate from the majority to pursue their cause to the point where they threaten the club's future.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    ...<laugh>
     
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  3. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    If only he could have made his point as succinctly and as fairly as you just did, without putting hundreds of words into CTWD's mouth.
     
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  4. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    Oh the irony - The KC?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    The OP didn't have a point, he just posted some ridiculous nonsense.

    It is a shame that it's come to this, it's all so unnecessary, but it is what it is.

    When the arbitration process is unsuccessful and it will be unsuccessful, the club will be sold. There is no need for it to be, but I'm afraid our owner is a stubborn old man who either gets his own way, or starts toy throwing. The club will not be handed to Ehab, the Allam's will leave together, what we should hope for now is that our new owner expands the stadium, reduces prices and takes the club to another level.
     
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  6. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    And not asset-strip us for a quick buck resulting in our return to the lower leagues.
     
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  7. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Nope...
     
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  8. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Asset strip us? What assets will there be to strop seeing as we don't own our ground?
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Hull City is not an organisation that can be asset stripped.

    It's only assets are it's players and as soon as you start selling them, your asset starts to diminish. The more players you sell, the less your other players are worth, as an asset stripping proposition, it's a non-starter.

    A Premier League clubs only value, is in remaining a Premier League club and that takes ongoing investment.

    I understand the fear, but it's unfounded, at least from a financial perspective.

    There is a chance that our next owner could be a complete ****er, but there's not a lot we can do about.

    Nobody has driven our owner away, there is no campaign to get rid of him, the vast majority are very grateful to him and would like him to stay in charge, if he doesn't wish to do so, there's very little we can do about it.
     
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  10. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

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    Bang on.

    The club&#8217;s only asset is its Premier League status.

    To have any chance of making money the new owners will need to sustain PL status, which ironically, will appease the appeasers anyway.

    Personally, I don&#8217;t see Allam selling &#8211; not in the short term anyway. His word, as proven, is not to be trusted and I think he&#8217;ll hide behind not finding a good enough owner.
     
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  11. Fez

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    Bloody hell, Craig. How do you attribute the word intelligent to that post? It may well be an honest point of view, but it is seriously flawed.

    Surely your sentiments about threats and success are focussed around the club, but how we all perceive the club is equally focussed on our individual opinions on the need for a name-change and how one would change our club's character and identity.

    A like-minded bunch of folk have used due process to prevent that name-change, it being the FA who made the decision - not the supporters. CTWD do not threaten the club's future, they have simply campaigned for what was proven to be the correct cause; the owners have said they will only sell to a 'good home', so that should be reassurance enough for the club's future wellbeing as the owners only tell the truth, don't they? A good home should satisfy everyone, or can you tell me something I am missing?

    If it were you who thought we were vulnerable to an aggressive bid for asset stripping (which seems to be the case), how would you go about asset stripping this club and what would be your financial imperative, the trigger to opt for dismantling, rather than success and growth? Can you give us some indication of what you believe the sale value of the club would be at this point (the minimum investment to be recouped), if the owners were to sell?

    This, or do you have a convincing alternative?
     
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  12. renegadetiger

    renegadetiger Well-Known Member

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    Neither does Assem Allam.
     
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  13. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    I don't claim to know how clubs are run into the ground by mercenary owners, but I do recognize that it happens. Ken Bates at Leeds comes to mind and also Portsmouth's previous owners.

    I suppose an owner could have a strategy of investing as little as possible to barely maintain our Premier League status, while pocketing as much TV / Prem money etc for as long as he can.

    Add to that he could sell off new talent in the same way Allam could sell Robertson in January (knowing we have enough bodies to replace him).
    There is also the option to increase ticket prices.

    Of course the real money is in the Prem, but anyone who takes over would probably inherit a squad that could survive for a couple of seasons with minimal investment.
     
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