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Jose Fonte baby said:
Agreed, money is indeed a big part of this. Ramirez even said that he came here because "we would pay him lots of money". It might be that because of Ramirez' high wages and so everyone else doesn't feel at unease, key players like Lambert, Lallana, etc get wage increases. If we want to become a truly established team, players will want high wages, regardless of whether they've been with us in L1/the Championship or if they're being purchased.
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Ambition, working harder and achieving success should go hand in hand with being paid more. Plenty of times it doesn't happen like that. I know of several instances where a talented person has performed extremely well, going out on a limb in their commitment, has been praised by the ambitious company they were working for, and got paid a pittance.

Does it read like it's a personal experience..?
 
Jose Fonte baby said:
Agreed, money is indeed a big part of this. Ramirez even said that he came here because "we would pay him lots of money". It might be that because of Ramirez' high wages and so everyone else doesn't feel at unease, key players like Lambert, Lallana, etc get wage increases. If we want to become a truly established team, players will want high wages, regardless of whether they've been with us in L1/the Championship or if they're being purchased.
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I feel like this topic has been gone over so many times, but I will point out that Ramirez really isn't on that much, the offer was so great to him because he was on chicken feed at Bologna. I'd hazard a guess that Lambert and Lallana were up and around his wage already, there certainly wasn't that big of a gulf.
 
Mikey said:
I feel like this topic has been gone over so many times, but I will point out that Ramirez really isn't on that much, the offer was so great to him because he was on chicken feed at Bologna. I'd hazard a guess that Lambert and Lallana were up and around his wage already, there certainly wasn't that big of a gulf.
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I read somewhere that he had his 9,000 Bologna wage tripled (not sure if it's 27,000 pounds or euros) but I also read on Twitter he was on 50k, so I'm not sure.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Ambition, working harder and achieving success should go hand in hand with being paid more. Plenty of times it doesn't happen like that. I know of several instances where a talented person has performed extremely well, going out on a limb in their commitment, has been praised by the ambitious company they were working for, and got paid a pittance.

Does it read like it's a personal experience..?
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Quite a universal experience, I'd say. In most business's, the link between effort, ability and reward is pretty tenuous to say the least. What makes sport unique is that there really is no place for the mediocre to hide, but that doesn't mean the talented don't get overlooked.

However, most people are not motivated purely by money in their working lives. Recognition, respect, and the satisfaction of a job well done all count for something, even in today's mercenary society.
 
If I wanted to be properly rewarded for my efforts I should never have left industry to become a teacher.

The link between effort, skill, intelligence, hard work and salary do not correlate. Just look at bankers and their bonuses.
 
St Godders of Windsor said:
If I wanted to be properly rewarded for my efforts I should never have left industry to become a teacher.

The link between effort, skill, intelligence, hard work and salary do not correlate. Just look at bankers and their bonuses.
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I'm assuming a typo here, Godders.

Teachers used to be well rewarded before the onslaught from New Labour and the Tories, but it wasn't a financial reward. Teachers I knew in the 60's and 70's loved their jobs and got a real buzz out of seeing kids they taught doing well. Thatcher, Blair et al and their Ofsted mates, combined with targets, has destroyed their morale as they have with other public service workers. Now where did that rant come from? I'll go back under my shell.
 
I know quite a few teachers who have taken early retirement rather than battle with the bureaucracy that teachers have to contend with nowadays. One man, who was the head of the local primary school, took a job as a porter/station master at Bradford on Avon railway station, and has never been happier. If teachers were left to teach, as Channon says above, they would most likely be less stressed and this would be reflected in the results they get.
 
ChilcoSaint said:
I know quite a few teachers who have taken early retirement rather than battle with the bureaucracy that teachers have to contend with nowadays. One man, who was the head of the local primary school, took a job as a porter/station master at Bradford on Avon railway station, and has never been happier. If teachers were left to teach, as Channon says above, they would most likely be less stressed and this would be reflected in the results they get.
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Perhaps he liked the uniform
 
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