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Amazing Rumour About National Journos Receiving Back handers

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by redstripe76, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. CBK

    CBK Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how saying "I work in the music business" still relates to the original topic about FOOTBALLERS joining clubs because of money, not powerpoint presentations.
     
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  2. fatletiss

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    100% disagree Beddy and the only reason I do disagree, is that I have met many footballers who don't. I was shocked and disappointed (Out of jealousy) but it is true. Some footballers are good at it, but don't love it.
     
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  3. CBK

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    Never on a Monday. Could have been a Thursday. I like Thursdays, its when the Filipino nurse visits.
     
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  4. fatletiss

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    LTL, it wasn't a very constructive reply from him, and I have been your side of this particular line all through this thread, but I did have a little chuckle at his comment, silly as it was :cheesy: sorry. Sometimes a little silliness can break a little tension. I certainly hope so anyway, as I do it all the time
     
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  5. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Because you were saying that I would react differently because I don't work in an industry that treats people as commodities. I was pointing out that actually I do.

    Trying to get maximum revenue from a short lived career by advising young people (usually up to around mid 30s) operating within a spectrum (not rabbit) providing a form of entertainment to the masses? Yeah, I think there's an awful lot of comparables....
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I did too, but I have to play the offended part! (PS - I did do another little lie on this thread that I should admit to. I said earlier that I more than likely really wouldn't like Cortese. In fact, I think that I probably would do. I'd certainly love to go for a beer with him - I think he'd be fascinating).
     
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  7. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Messi say something along those lines recently. Like, he doesn't really watch or get into football in his spare time.
     
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  8. CBK

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    So bands/artists join record labels because of their "vision" and not the bloody big 3 album cheque?
     
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  9. pass the football

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    That doesn't mean he doesn't love playing it though. I like playing scrabble but I probably wouldn't watch it.
     
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  10. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

    I Sorry I Ruined The Party Well-Known Member

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    How often do we think "Oh man, it's awesome that I don't live in some starving, war-torn country in Africa?" Probably not as often as we should. Because it's not a practical reality. For most of us, our career/life choice is work at company A or work at company B for roughly the same amount of money and doing roughly the same thing.

    I don't see how it is different for professional footballers. I'm sure that on some level they realize how fortunate they are in terms of the money, and that they are pursuing something they care about. But is the difference between Premier clubs of roughly the same level really that great? Everyone has nice pitches, incredible facilities, good coaching, etc. or they wouldn't be a Premier league club.

    I think there is something to be said for selling a player on a club. Precisely because these players are looking at so many similar options. I will credit Cortese with that to some degree. But we have to be able to pay a competitive salary first. And we have to be a club where people feel like we're going someplace so that we meet their career ambitions. And then, only as a tiebreaker comes the Cortese factor of selling them a "vision."

    It's not nothing. It can be pretty significant because any bit of advantage helps. But it is $$ that's the primary force. Even if you look past wages-- what is it that makes us attractive to a player? The facilities, the talent that surrounds them in terms of teammates and coaching, and the vision that this club can compete at the upper level. All of which is made possible by money.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I was quite shocked when I learned that Andre Agassi hated tennis, and that opened the floodgates to other tennis stars saying the same, among them Serena Williams. They don't hate the sport. They fall out of love with it because they are wedded to it through lifestyle, agents, schedules, and all manner of commitments that mean they end up hating even the feel of the tennis racket.

    I'm sure there are professional footballers who feel exactly the same with a football and running out onto a pitch. And then there is one Rickie Lambert. Case dismissed..!
     
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  12. CBK

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    Rock N Roll !!!
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Bands and artists will potentially have a choice of label looking to recruit them - the majors (let's call them Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City) where you'll potentially get a hefty sum invested in you, but it's sink or swim and if you don't perform big style (let's call these artists Anderson or De Bruyne) you'll be dropped like a stone. There'll also be the smaller independents (shall we call them Southampton, Everton and Swansea) that won't have the cash to invest as heavily as a major, but will look after you one hell of a lot better over time and likely give you a far, far more sustainable career.

    I'll let you guess which ones I prefer working with and advise any artist to pursue.....and oddly enough, which many (level headed) artists go for......
     
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  14. CBK

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    I like having pointless discussions on the internet.



    Bugger.
     
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  15. Jose Fonte baby

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    Didn't Balotelli say when he won Young Player of the Year that he hadn't heard of Jack Wilshere, despite playing over here for a couple of seasons?
     
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  16. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    To be fair to Mario, I wish I hadn't heard of Jack Wilshere either.
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Hmm, I know what you mean. One can get a little Wilshered out.
     
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  18. CBK

    CBK Well-Known Member

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    Back handers to journalists through to Jack Wilshire.

    Time to shut this thread down.
     
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  19. fatletiss

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    he's a wine drinker..... no that isn't a euphemism CBK!!!
     
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  20. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I can just picture you playing against yourself and running round the table to sit in the opposite chair :)


    just pulling your leg incase you go all sensitive on me
     
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