Amazing Harry Kane Stats

It's actually remarkable how someone so good a striking the ball when it is in motion can turn to total **** when that ball is stationary.

At least a dozen of these attempts made me chuckle, they were that bad.

 

Fabulous

 

Much as I have nothing but respect for Harry and his phenomenal goal scoring, the obsession in the media about him beating Shearers 'record' does forget that football did exist before the premier league started.

But I am pleased to report that Harry is now in the top 100 goal scorers in the history of English league football a list that does include many players who never played top flight football and covers the entire 135 years of the league, and is therefore a greater achievement than it would seem at first glance.

 

Looking at all time scorers in a bit more detail I see that Harrys goal last night - his 199th in the top flight elevates him to =30th alongside the Bobbys Smith and Charlton.

A further 10 goals will not only take him ahead of Rooney to 2nd in premier league terms but would also take him into the top 20 of all time.

He is the only player currently playing who is in the top 100 of all time.

And having had a bit of a dig at Shearer earlier his total of 283 is the 5th best in history (so not too shabby!!)

 

Brian Clough had an amazing record....250 league goals at 0.9 per match. But I think they were all in the 2nd Division.

 

Wonderful nostalgia, so nice to see Jimmy in action again and the ladies above the tunnel with their UP THE SPURS banner. They were there for years & years. I love clips from the old ground with the famous old players...

 

You have to define "modern era" stats, because otherwise
you are not doing "like for like" comparisons, For example,
Greavsie played in a league season that had 4 more
games than the PL. Similarly in UEFA land he would
have played less games to reach a certain round of a
competition than current PL participants do.

That it has taken another Spurs player nigh on 50 yrs
to attain comparable stats to Greavsie and Smithy,
speaks volumes for their prowess during their time.

 

There is another big factor. The league consisted entirely of players from the British Isles back then so the overall standard would have been much lower. So genuinely world class players would find it much easier to dominate.

 

Almost entirely. Greaves definitely scored past Bert Traumann, for a start.

 

Greavsie still edges it for me, 357 top flight goals on mud bath pitches and with zero protection from hatchet men defenders, all while smoking 20 fags a day and a regular skinful. It will be interesting to see where Kane can end up once he finishes, but it is hard to compare players from different eras, you could argue Greaves had better players around him, or that Kane has had to carry his team for far longer etc. Both truly great goal scorers though obviously.

 

If you did you would obviously be wrong. Our best finish in the League was second when Greaves was playing. Same as Kane. But in the 60s the League was almost entirely British players so the standard was clearly lower than now when so many talented players from around the world play in the PL.

 

Would that be the decade when England won the World Cup and Manchester United won their first European Cup?

 

Same decade Spurs were first English club to win a European trophy

 

Yep, it was truly poor without all those talented foreign players

 

Even if we were actually the best in the world in the 60s (and one World Cup and three European championships out of 25 available trophies is hardly convincing), then only a few percent of the world's best players would still be playing in England, whereas it's now more like half of them.

 

No one said it was poor, just that the influx of truly world class players into the top division of English football that has happened in the last 30 years must have increased the talent pool, unless you are truly xenophobic enough to think that foreign players have not improved the quality of teams in England.

 

So how many truly world class players did those winning teams have. England 4 at most Banks, Moore, Charlton and Greaves. Man U I am not a fan and was only 4 at the time so I can't even name all the players, but other than Charlton and Best was anyone a genuine world class talent? Or were they a very good team that were very well coached?

 

What I would contend that the overseas flood
for the PL lucre has demonstrated, is the inferior
nature of "grass roots" coaching in England
(defenders who cannot bring the ball out,
players who cannot pass accurately/fast under
pressure or not etc)

 

But there are so many more of them than us. We are only a tiny little island and we taught the lot of them in the first place!