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Am I a bad parent?

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  1. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    NOT good advice.

    You can be a prat sometimes, DT, but that comment is just ridiculous (whether meant in jest or not).
     
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  2. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I've baulked at taking (rather than the 'bringing') Uber Major and Uber Minor to football matches until they were older than eight. It's not just the prospect of violence that has deterred me, but also the appalling bad language throughout the game. I'm happy to be considered odd with this; it's completely and utterly up to everybody what they believe is acceptable to subject their young offspring to. I just don't want my children to witness grown men - sometimes accompanied by their own young kids - screaming aggressive and obscene expletives at the officials, opposition players or opposing fans. The fact that they will soon sadly experience such language for themselves on the streets and playgrounds in a few short years is irrelevant.

    Is it bad parenting to take your child(ren) to Millwall? Not for me to say, but not something I'd do. I wouldn't even take them to Loftus Road until they were a little older than that.
     
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  3. Kilburn

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    A comment mentioned in this article does not show Millwall fans in a very good light:-

    http://shepherds-bush.blogspot.ca/2011/08/murdered-police-remembered-in-east.html

    In the years that followed the murders followers of Millwall Football Club used to taunt Police with chants about how Harry Roberts was "their friend" for being a "cop killer".

    Murdered Police remembered in East Acton ceremony

    "Last Friday was the anniversary of the murders of Detective Sergeant Chris Head, PC Geoff Fox and PC David Wombwell who were murdered in Braybrook Street W12 in 1966, and it was remembered in a small and often little known ceremony that takes place every year in this part of the Bush.

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    One of the most traumatic murder cases in London occurred one summer afternoon on 12th August 1966 when the crew of F 11 Q Car was cold-bloodedly murdered near Wormwood Scrubs prison.

    The three officers were Detective Sergeant Christopher Head, Detective Constable David Wombwell and PC Geoffrey Fox, all of whom were attached to Shepherd's Bush police station. They approached a battered blue Standard Vanguard Estate car with three suspects inside in Braybrook Street, and Christopher Head and David Wombwell questioned the occupants. The suspects were John Witney, owner of the car, John Duddy, and the infamous Harry Roberts. It was Roberts who pulled out a gun, and turned a routine police stop into a gruesome murder by shooting David Wombwell. Roberts then pursued Christopher Head towards the police car and shot him also, whilst Duddy fired at and killed Geoffrey Fox.

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    The three officers were Detective Sergeant Christopher Head, Detective Constable David Wombwell and PC Geoffrey Fox, all of whom were attached to Shepherd's Bush police station. They approached a battered blue Standard Vanguard Estate car with three suspects inside in Braybrook Street, and Christopher Head and David Wombwell questioned the occupants. The suspects were John Witney, owner of the car, John Duddy, and the infamous Harry Roberts. It was Roberts who pulled out a gun, and turned a routine police stop into a gruesome murder by shooting David Wombwell. Roberts then pursued Christopher Head towards the police car and shot him also, whilst Duddy fired at and killed Geoffrey Fox.

    The three criminals raced away from the scene, and the biggest manhunt for many years began. It had been the first time that three officers had been murdered in one incident since three City of London officers had died in Houndsditch in the prelude to the Sidney Street siege of 1911, and the whole of the police service was shocked at the outrage.

    Public reaction was no less intense, and there were many calls for the re-introduction of the recently abolished death penalty for some types of murder.

    Fortunately the number of their car had been taken.

    John Witney was the first to be arrested, having been traced through his ownership of the car, and he admitted the involvement of Duddy and Roberts. Duddy was traced to Scotland, but Roberts was on the run for about 3 months before he was caught camping out in Hertfordshire.

    Witney and Duddy have since died but Harry Roberts remains in prison to this day for the crime. In the years that followed the murders followers of Millwall Football Club used to taunt Police with chants about how Harry Roberts was "their friend" for being a "cop killer"."

    I hope the first two comments to this article, put in place by the next two, that COYS, is not meant to be COYRs?

    "Harry Roberts is our friend is our friend is our friend cos he kills coppers! COYS"

    "Nice one Cyril. COYS"

    "What idiots you two are, grow up. RIP the three of you."

    "Rot in hell Harry Roberts!!!"
     
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  4. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Mixed advice then Ezwoldo. Tell you what, why not take your offspring to cage fighting instead? As a competitor of course.
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    Be sensible, don't wear colours, no problems.
     
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  6. Stroller

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    The Harry Roberts song was not exclusive to Millwall. I've heard Rangers fans sing it in the past.
     
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  7. Ciarrai_Abu

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    Why take any chance?
     
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  8. Staines R's

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    Strictly out of curiosity (and I promise I'm not having a pop) but IF you have young kids Watford, have you ever taken them to Millwall ??

    As the different opinions on here show I guess it's just a matter of what YOU ( the parent) feel is ok.
     
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  9. Busy Being Headhunted

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    why dont you just take him to a different fixture
     
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  10. Rangers Til I Die

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    Never been and wil never go. Seeing their fans at LR is more than enough. Don't do it.
     
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  11. awjm

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    I still think the FA and the FL should be tougher on them to change. But I don't know what would be harsh and would would be too soft.
     
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  12. Wherever

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    Not worth going if you have to ask, choose another game, any other game
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    I don't have kids at all but Millwall doesn't need to be any different to any other London away game. The 'aggro' is overhyped and barely noticeable if you're sensible.

    Get there early, stay a bit late, sit in the middle. No problems at all and no reason not to take kids IMO.
     
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  14. DaveThomas

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    Meant to word it that if a man was offensive to a son ... I stand by that if any of my sons were verbally threatened I would not hesitate not for one moment I wouldn't reason or walk easy nor have I in the past

    It's my way and the way I was brought up no liberal parenting plus today my lads all grown would expect me to do the same

    Absolute no hesitation if the line is crossed and that my views and action
     
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  15. Stroller

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    Surely the point is not to voluntarily put your kids in such a position in the first place?
     
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  16. seagullhoop

    seagullhoop Well-Known Member

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    Take him to the Amex at Brighton - best away day in the league by a country mile - local beer, friendly atmosphere - lovely!
     
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  17. queenslandrangers

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    i thought this was going to be a thread about letting your kid be a chelsea fan. then my answer to that would be yes you are the worst kind of parent there is. As for taking your kid to millwall i could not say either way.
     
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  18. Busy Being Headhunted

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    take him to Brighton, lots either way there
     
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  19. Didley Squat

    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    Well said, mate.
     
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  20. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I've been and you certainly need your wits about you.
    I wouldn't take my 14 year old, but my 19 year old would love it!!
     
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