Alternative playoffs

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  1. seagullhoop

    seagullhoop Well-Known Member

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    Watching the playoffs and it seems that the 'advantage' of a home second leg in the semi-final is thin pickings when there might be such a big points difference between third and sixth

    Was thinking an alternative would be a mini league between all 4 clubs (i.e. 3 games each) with the club that finished higher always playing at home

    Would really reward those teams finishing higher, and still mean the same number of games to win promotion

    So in the case of this season...

    Brighton vs Hull
    Brighton vs Derby
    Brighton vs Sheff Wed

    Hull vs Derby
    Hull vs Sheff Wed

    Derby vs Sheff Wed
     
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  2. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    And no one gets the big day out at Wembley and the telly can't go on about 'the richest game in sport'? Tempting.....
     
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  3. factamondo

    factamondo Well-Known Member

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    How about if you finish third after a 46 game slog you go up as deserved?
     
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    Agree entirely....but Sky paymasters would never agree to it......
     
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    Would have saved us a year of humiliation in the Prem.
     
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  6. Kilburn

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    .......or perhaps the Scottish way, where potential relegation candidates fight for the right to remain in their division over teams from the next division down.

    SPFL PLAY-OFF DATES 2015/16

    Ladbrokes Premiership play-offs

    Wednesday 4 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 1st leg
    4th in Championship v 3rd in Championship
    Raith Rovers 1-0 Hibernian, kick-off 7.45pm

    Saturday 7 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off quarter-final, 2nd leg
    3rd in Championship v 4th in Championship
    Hibernian 2-0 Raith Rovers, kick-off 12.30pm

    Tuesday 10 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    3rd or 4th in Championship v 2nd in Championship
    Hibernian v Falkirk, kick-off 7.45pm (live on BT Sport)

    Friday 13 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    2nd in Championship v 3rd or 4th in Championship
    Falkirk v Hibernian, kick-off 7.45pm (live on BT Sport)

    **Thursday 19 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off final, 1st leg
    2nd or 3rd or 4th in Championship v 11th in Premiership
    Live on BT Sport, kick-off 7.45pm

    **Sunday 22 May, 2016
    Premiership play-off final, 2nd leg
    11th in Premiership v 2nd or 3rd or 4th in Championship
    Live on BT Sport, kick-off 3.00pm

    ** If Scottish Cup finalists Hibernian reach the play-off final, the dates will be Tuesday 17 May & Wednesday 25 May.

    Ladbrokes Championship play-offs

    Tuesday 3 May, 2016
    Championship play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    3rd in League 1 v 2nd in League 1
    Peterhead 1-4 Ayr United, kick-off 8.00pm

    Wednesday 4 May, 2016
    Championship play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    4th in League 1 v 9th in Championship
    Stranraer 5-2 Livingston, kick-off 7.45pm

    Saturday 7 May, 2016
    Championship play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    9th in Championship v 4th in League 1
    Livingston 4-3 Stranraer, kick-off 3.00pm (AET)

    Saturday 7 May, 2016
    Championship play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    2nd in League 1 v 3rd in League 1
    Ayr United 2-1 Peterhead, kick-off 3.00pm

    Wednesday 11 May, 2016
    Championship play-off final, 1st leg
    Stranraer v Ayr United
    Live on BBC ALBA, kick-off 7.45pm

    Sunday 15 May, 2016
    Championship play-off final, 2nd leg
    Ayr United v Stranraer
    Live on BBC ALBA, kick-off 2.45pm

    Ladbrokes League 1 play-offs

    Tuesday 3 May, 2016
    League 1 play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    3rd in League 2 v 2nd in League 2
    Clyde 3-1 Elgin City, kick-off 7.45pm

    Wednesday 4 May, 2016
    League 1 play-off semi-final, 1st leg
    4th in League 2 v 9th in League 1
    Queen's Park 2-0 Cowdenbeath, kick-off 7.45pm

    Saturday May 7, 2016
    League 1 play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    9th in League 1 v 4th in League 2
    Cowdenbeath 1-0 Queen's Park, kick-off 3.00pm

    Saturday May 7, 2016
    League 1 play-off semi-final, 2nd leg
    2nd in League 2 v 3rd in League 2
    Elgin City 0-2 Clyde, kick-off 3.00pm

    Tuesday 10 May, 2016
    League 1 play-off final, 1st leg
    **Clyde v Queen's Park, kick-off 7.45pm

    Saturday 14 May, 2016
    League 1 play-off final, 2nd leg
    **Queen's Park v Clyde, kick-off 3.00pm

    ** Fixtures reversed as Broadwood is unavailable on May 14

    Ladbrokes League 2 play-offs

    Saturday 7 May, 2016
    League 2 play-off final, 1st leg
    Highland League or Lowland League champions v Club 42
    Edinburgh City 1-1 East Stirlingshire, kick-off 3.00pm

    Saturday 14 May, 2016
    League 2 play-off final, 2nd leg
    Club 42 v Highland League or Lowland League champions
    East Stirlingshire v Edinburgh City, kick-off 3.00pm

    http://spfl.co.uk/playoffs/
     
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  7. Sutfol

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    Quite like the way it is, if Brighton don't go up then tough tits
     
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    Actually, the play offs came into being a long time before Sky!

    Introduced to stop half the matches played in April being between two sides with nothing to play for not giving a damn. It was dreadful to watch!

    Change the format by all means, but don't take us back to those days of yore.
     
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  9. seagullhoop

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    Totally agree... I think it's a much better way to generate interest in the end of season for more teams, but it just seems that there might be a way to weight it a little more to reflect the finishing positions
     
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  10. Hoops Eternal

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    I have to admit I am a great fan of the play offs, our home semi against Wigan and the final will live with me forever.
    Watching Plymouth v. Portsmouth now, fantastic drama
     
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  11. seagullhoop

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    Agreed, not suggesting the playoffs are inherently bad, I just think they don't necessarily reflect the final table
     
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    I agree with what you are saying, it seems unfair that a team that finishes say 12 points behind another then gets promoted
     
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  13. Kilburn

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    Yes, I have enjoyed these lower league playoff matches too. Just watching the tail end of this one. So Plymouth it is with that late winner.

    Well done Grimsby too, having their day out at Wembley, now promoted to League Two, beating Forest Green 3-1, didn't realize that the other "beast" Jon Parkin played for FG. They will be disappointed as they finished the season 9 pts ahead of Grimsby, and were likely shell shocked conceding two goals in two mins just before HT.

    I see a second trip to Wembley on the cards for Grimsby too:-

    The promoted Mariners return to Wembley on 22 May for the FA Trophy final against FC Halifax.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36244418
     
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  14. Steelmonkey

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    As Kilburn stated, the playoff situation up here in Scotland definately rewards the higher placed sides, although it is weighted in favour of the Premier League side who finish 2nd bottom of that league.

    It retains all the fervour towards the end of season, but there is no final, as the matches are all played over two legs. This season we get a new team in the league - Edinburgh City finally breaking into the SPFL from the Lowland League, and the expense of East Stirling, whilst at the other end of the leagues, Hibs have paud the cost of not finishing 2nd by having to play 4 games in 9 days, and falling short - Falkirk going through to play Kilmarnock in the final round of matches.
     
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  15. Hoops Eternal

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    Plymouth score what looks to be the winner in the 92nd minute, now that is drama
     
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    I like the present set up.
     
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  17. Kilburn

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    Perhaps next season our partnership with relegated Basingstoke Town will assist them in returning to the National League (South).
     
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  18. MelburnIAN

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    As an alternative, one of the play off scenarios here is quite good, it reduces the number of games to 4 and favours the higher placed teams:

    3v4 (winner straight to final)
    and 5v6 (loser goes home)
    Loser of 3v4 v winner 5v6 (winner to final)
     
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  19. seagullhoop

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    I'd guess that reducing the number of games would probably strike fear into the money men at Sky!
     
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  20. MelburnIAN

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    It's only one game, but I suppose there's gold there soemwhere
     
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