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Cityzen said:
As there are no similarities between those things it isn’t really relevant.
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They are all businesses owned by a individual/company, just in different sectors. Football fans are customers to clubs just as individuals are to all those businesses I mentioned above. (Yes that's a very black and white way of looking at it, but it's also true).

Anyway let's not go down that rabbit hole. It thankfully didn't happen and I'm sure the good things ( fa cup final / Europe etc ) will be remembered longer and reminisced about more then name change
 
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PLT said:
Jesus Christ, is it 2013? These were **** arguments when people made them back then and they've been debunked dozens of times since. Why would you want to get into this again...
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Yet again nobody ever answers the question, they just say it's rubbish, feel free to PM me to debunk it if you want, so we don't clog up the thread.
 
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DMD said:
Strictly speaking, the business name has changed many times, the issue was more around changing the product name.
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Good and fair point, but point is still the same ( products change the name all the time for example )
 
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DMD said:
Strictly speaking, the business name has changed many times, the issue was more around changing the product name.
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Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd changing their name to Liverpool FC worked.
 
Howdentiger2 said:
Plenty have, man utd, arsenal and Bournemouth spring to mind ( admittedly many many years ago )
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As I said earlier since the football league was set up. None of the founder members have changed their name except Stoke who added the common, lousy name City. Man Utd did because the were no longer a works team, Arsenal because they moved from Woolwich. Bournemouth because they wanted to sound continental. Birmingham added the common and lousy City in the 1940s. The Wednesday added Sheffield and clubs like Swansea altered from Town to City for obvious reasons.
Not one has altered because someone declared it was his money so he could call it what he wanted.
 
Howdentiger2 said:
Yet again nobody ever answers the question, they just say it's rubbish, feel free to PM me to debunk it if you want, so we don't clog up the thread.
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Exactly.

The fact is it was HIS club. We are 'supporters' of the club. If you do not like the owner or the way they run it you have two choices, buy it from him or stop supporting it.

You might not like the second one and the first choice might be beyond most people but the reality is this the risk when you invest yourself into something you do not own and cannot control. There are plenty of Manchester United fans who have given up their hard to come by season passes because they dislike the owners so much, they will likely never get a seat of their own again.

Football fans have recently aqquired this strange belief that the club they choose to support somehow is theirs to control as a business because they put £300 a year into it.

I do not give a frig about Acun, Assam, Pearson or anyone else, I go and watch 90 mins of football, enjoy some time with my family and hope that we see a win for City at the same time as being entertained. I spent too long watching League 2 football home and away to give a ****e about much more than that.
 
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Cityzen said:
As I said earlier since the football league was set up. None of the founder members have changed their name except Stoke who added the common, lousy name City. Man Utd did because the were no longer a works team, Arsenal because they moved from Woolwich. Bournemouth because they wanted to sound continental. Birmingham added the common and lousy City in the 1940s. The Wednesday added Sheffield and clubs like Swansea altered from Town to City for obvious reasons.
Not one has altered because someone declared it was his money so he could call it what he wanted.
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Bournemouth did it in the 70s didn't they? And again the reasons for doing it or not doing it aren't being debated by me. You said why don't football clubs do it?, I pointed out some have and you've agreed that some have. So kind of makes your comment of "why don't football clubs do it" a little redundant

Doing it to sound more continental is a pretty crap reason though haha
 
The commendable stuff doesn't mean the questionable didn't happen. Going back to ruscadors there's been plenty of stories I'm sure we've all heard.

If people took a dislike to the man then I wouldn't expect them to change that view because he's died. Don't see the point in arguing the toss all over again.
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Bournemouth did it in the 70s didn't they? And again the reasons for doing it or not doing it aren't being debated by me. You said why don't football clubs do it?, I pointed out some have and you've agreed that some have. So kind of makes your comment of "why don't football clubs do it" a little redundant

Doing it to sound more continental is a pretty crap reason though haha
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No one has changed their name for the reasons our owner wanted to. Arsenal changing their name because they moved bears no relation to it.
 
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Cityzen said:
No one has changed their name for the reasons our owner wanted to. Arsenal changing their name because they moved bears no relation to it.
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Yet again, I'm not sure why your changing from "why don't football clubs do it" to now "no one has changed their name for the reasons our owner wanted to"

Let's just leave it there. The main thing is that it didn't happen.
 
Howdentiger2 said:
Yet again, I'm not sure why your changing from "why don't football clubs do it" to now "no one has changed their name for the reasons our owner wanted to"

Let's just leave it there. The main thing is that it didn't happen.
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Because you are equating clubs changing location altering their for reason to changing names for a completely different reason.
 
Cityzen said:
Because you are equating clubs changing location altering their for reason to changing names for a completely different reason.
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No, all I did was respond to your comment "why don't football clubs do it" with proof that they have a number of times. You have now changed that to reasons why they changed them

Yet again, let's leave it there
 
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