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thefanwithnoname said:
Yeah you claim that but as with your other claims I don't see the evidence

Its simple really you posted a quote and said it said X I said no your quote actually says Y, I then proceeded to explain it and gave the details for SAI

You just said paganism I await your evidence

Please provide evidence for your claim so we can move on
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Again? People are getting quite bored of you ignoring the replies, but okay, I'm a patient chap, and you really haven't explained anything. You simply repeated your myth, so if you're going to respond, you need some evidence to support your myth. You've tried to narrow it down to this bit, having failed with all the other points I raised, so this is your last desperate stand.

Given the rest of the traditions associated with it are certainly pagan, and the Abrahimic faith you're desperate to tie it all too copies pagan stories and traditions, it seems a little pointless, but what the hell.


Firstly, sa'i is the walk between the two hillocks of Safa and Marwa, yes? If it isn't feel free to explain what it is, and I'll thank you for the education, and then probably show you why that too was pagan.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba and the Sa'i of Safa and Marwa so as to show his strength to the pagans. (Hadith, al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710-711)

So, your books show that prior to mohamed, it was pagan. Yes? This supports the additional information and wider argument posted earlier.

What you need to do, is produce some solid evidence that the same ceremony was ever carried out by people of abrahimic faiths before the pagans did it.

NB, quotes from your book saying it happened are not credible. You need to provide additional, external information in the same way as I have.
 
Bodinki said:
she just sounds mental mate.
After all, would you introduce yourself to a man as "Hi, I am thefanwithnoname and I am straight so sex is off the cards....."
That's not a gay argument, thats just a stupid bitch by the sounds of it.
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That was just one example but its par for the course for gay people to bring up sexuality and then be affronted

They even claim science says so <laugh>
 
DMD said:
Again? People are getting quite bored of you ignoring the replies, but okay, I'm a patient chap, and you really haven't explained anything. You simply repeated your myth, so if you're going to respond, you need some evidence to support your myth. You've tried to narrow it down to this bit, having failed with all the other points I raised, so this is your last desperate stand.

Given the rest of the traditions associated with it are certainly pagan, and the Abrahimic faith you're desperate to tie it all too copies pagan stories and traditions, it seems a little pointless, but what the hell.


Firstly, sa'i is the walk between the two hillocks of Safa and Marwa, yes? If it isn't feel free to explain what it is, and I'll thank you for the education, and then probably show you why that too was pagan.

Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba and the Sa'i of Safa and Marwa so as to show his strength to the pagans. (Hadith, al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710-711)

So, your books show that prior to mohamed, it was pagan. Yes? This supports the additional information and wider argument posted earlier.

What you need to do, is produce some solid evidence that the same ceremony was ever carried out by people of abrahimic faiths before the pagans did it.

NB, quotes from your book saying it happened are not credible. You need to provide additional, external information in the same way as I have.
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You asking about the SAI, which I have explained to you specifically numerous times?

<laugh>:undecided:
 
thefanwithnoname said:
Get to **** ya clown<laugh>

All that time you been writing essays and missing the fundamental issue?

Ffs <laugh>
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It's hardly fundamental, it's just one aspect, but as I said in my previous replies, you say specifically which bit's which, and in English, and I'll demonstrate it's pagan in origin, as the whole event and most of the traditions are pagan.

You can then try to argue why it isn't.
 
DMD said:
It's hardly fundamental, it's just one aspect, but as I said in my previous replies, you say specifically which bit's which, and in English, and I'll demonstrate it's pagan in origin, as the whole event and most of the traditions are pagan.

You can then try to argue why it isn't.
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**** off <laugh>

Even as late as 9:48pm on page 38 (on my phone) yesterday it was explained to you for the umpteenth time and the fundamental question asked and Nada from you except wibble wobble

<laugh><laugh>
 
thefanwithnoname said:
**** off <laugh>

Even as late as 9:48pm on page 38 (on my phone) yesterday it was explained to you for the umpteenth time and the fundamental question asked and Nada from you except wibble wobble

<laugh><laugh>
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You're running away again. <ok>

Okay, I do keep saying I'm a patient guy, so I'll go back and see if I can decipher what you were trying to say.

No doubt this will cause offence, but it isn't meant to, and I've been trying to make allowances, but your written English doesn't come across as clearly as you possibly think.
 
DMD said:
You're running away again. <ok>

Okay, I do keep saying I'm a patient guy, so I'll go back and see if I can decipher what you were trying to say.

No doubt this will cause offence, but it isn't meant to, and I've been trying to make allowances, but your written English doesn't come across as clearly as you possibly think.
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<laugh>

And on page 37 it was explained at 1:41am
 
thefanwithnoname said:
<laugh>

And on page 37 it was explained at 1:41am
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As you can't seem to manage the link, but can find your reply, can you post the quote number in the bottom right hand corner. A search of your replies doesn't flag one up for 9:48pm yesterday. In the mean time, I'll patiently hunt the one you just mention and try to untangle your words.

You do make it difficult to follow by jumping about and posting several replies. I'm sure it's just accidental, and not a ploy to avoid answering, no matter how much it looks that way.
 
DMD said:
It looks that way. Give it another try. <ok>

http://www.darassalam.com.au/index.php/sai-of-hajj

Is this wrong, or is Sa'i the wandering round the cube bit? That's pagan too, so I'm happy to argue either or both.

Just let me know which is which, and what you want to discuss.
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<laugh><laugh>

Sunday at 11:40 it was explained in plain simple English

2 days later what's SAI? Is it this <insert link>

Bawahahaha

Good one <laugh>
 
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DMD said:
As you can't seem to manage the link, but can find your reply, can you post the quote number in the bottom right hand corner. A search of your replies doesn't flag one up for 9:48pm yesterday. In the mean time, I'll patiently hunt the one you just mention and try to untangle your words.

You do make it difficult to follow by jumping about and posting several replies. I'm sure it's just accidental, and not a ploy to avoid answering, no matter how much it looks that way.
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<laugh><laugh><laugh>

No wonder you keep complaining that your questions are not being answered

You haven't been reading the replies

Good one you got me <laugh><laugh>
 
thefanwithnoname said:
<laugh><laugh><laugh>

No wonder you keep complaining that your questions are not being answered

You haven't been reading the replies

Good one you got me <laugh><laugh>
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I appreciate things must be difficult for you, what with your English language issues, but if you'd be kind enough to post the link that seems to have got you a tad giddy, I'm sure we can move this on. <ok>
 
thefanwithnoname said:
No it's not a term for Muslims, it goes against Islamic belief.

I don't get how you can't see the problem with your claim as it's evident from those two quotes


take the first. So pagans and non Muslims are not allowed to do hajj. This doesn't mean the hajj is a pagan ritual. Fasting in ramadhan doesn't make you a Muslim, here I mean you DMD

The second quote is specific evidence that the " sai" as it is called between safa and marwa are rooted in abrahamic belief. FYI its based on Hagar running between the two mountains with Ishmael and God answering her prayers. The hadith in full corrects the narrator.
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This is your link for Sunday 11:40. Are you saying that the Sa'i is not the walk between the hillocks?
 
DMD said:
I appreciate things must be difficult for you, what with your English language issues, but if you'd be kind enough to post the link that seems to have got you a tad giddy, I'm sure we can move this on. <ok>
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<laugh><laugh>

What can I say my English and your ADHD is a bitch<laugh>
 
thefanwithnoname said:
I can't post gifts/memes

But in the words of bobby deniro

You, you, you

@Spurlock please do the honours
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Spurlock is simply a yappy no mark. If you need to beg him for help, you're in deep ****e. I've found the link you struggled to post btw, it seems to back up the earlier reply you've been trying to avoid.
 
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