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Bodinki said:
Why in the god damned ****, if you are going to attempt something as stupid as that, would you not have someone there with you, as a precaution, so you can be retrieved if you get in to trouble....
twat.
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To be fair he probably was 'retrieved' at some point.

When the bloke who found his kit walked past... Oh, somebody must have been filming themselves trying to get out of that swamp, I wonder if it was recent, perhaps I should try and dig them out, nah wait up fam are those Gola trainers? **** that **** man's better off dead innit.
 
Tel said:
To be fair he probably was 'retrieved' at some point.

When the bloke who found his kit walked past... Oh, somebody must have been filming themselves trying to get out of that swamp, I wonder if it was recent, perhaps I should try and dig them out, nah wait up fam are those Gola trainers? **** that **** man's better off dead innit.
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Nah what probably happened was someone came along and just saw a camera on a tripod aimed at quicksand, with no one around and though "I'll have that camera".
Took it home, turned it on to see whats on it, saw the video, was shocked as **** and thought, "This has to go on Youtube!".
Because thats the world we live in now.
 
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Bodinki said:
Why in the god damned ****, if you are going to attempt something as stupid as that, would you not have someone there with you, as a precaution, so you can be retrieved if you get in to trouble....
twat.
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He just has to be a top candidate for The Darwin Award.

There's some stiff competition from other idiots who've managed to off themselves by almost unbelievable stupidity. But that's gotta be right up there!
 
Someone already outdid Quicksand Man, unfortunately.
An idiotic teenaged couple decided to film themselves as the young lady shot her boyfriend.

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He was shielding himself with a book. The gun they used was a 50 calibre Desert Eagle.
That went about as well as you'd expect.
She already has child and is pregnant with another. She's being charged with manslaughter.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Someone already outdid Quicksand Man, unfortunately.
An idiotic teenaged couple decided to film themselves as the young lady shot her boyfriend.

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He was shielding himself with a book. The gun they used was a 50 calibre Desert Eagle.
That went about as well as you'd expect.
She already has child and is pregnant with another. She's being charged with manslaughter.
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FFS <doh>

I'm guessing they were American?
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
No, they were from Canada.

Only kidding. Of course they're American. Minnesota, to be exact.
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They should have tried shooting at the book by itself first .
A desert Eagle would blast a hole the size of a football through a car door so a book at point blank range would not be sufficient.
 
DUNCAN DONUTS said:
They should have tried shooting at the book by itself first .
A desert Eagle would blast a hole the size of a football through a car door so a book at point blank range would not be sufficient.
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They did shoot a book with it first as a test and it didn't penetrate it completely.
Probably hit it slightly differently or didn't use an identical book.

Alternatively they could've just googled Desert Eagle v books and seen this from 2010:
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They don't care Milky.

Maybe they are just conducting a social experiment to see how we react to their constant teasing? Weighing us up?

Or maybe it's just a few young 'uns who are cruising in their parents Spaceship whilst the parents are on holiday to some far flung Galaxy?
 
On a sadder note Iwobi Kantanga Goodlove was found dead in his Nigerian flat with $175 million dollars. Police said that he had been looking to give it all away but nobody answered his e-mails.
 
thefanwithnoname said:
So atheists keep saying. But no one asked for a definition iirc

Once questions get interesting its easier getting answers from a Tory politician
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It's because atheists won't have the same answers to your questions.
You're asking what a group believes, when there's no actual group.

It's like the difference between the vote on Scottish independence and following a political party.
One tells you what someone thinks about a single question, while the other is more in depth.

Feel free to ask a question, though.
I'll give you my answer. I can't speak for atheists as a whole, of course.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
It's because atheists won't have the same answers to your questions.
You're asking what a group believes, when there's no actual group.

It's like the difference between the vote on Scottish independence and following a political party.
One tells you what someone thinks about a single question, while the other is more in depth.

Feel free to ask a question, though.
I'll give you my answer. I can't speak for atheists as a whole, of course.
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I agree with this..it's the same for people who share the same belief aswell I think though. We all have different levels of interpretation and I can't really answer for a group either. Maybe a group shares generic beliefs hence the foundations for a group to be formed are there..E.g A God or no God

but when it comes to normal everyday people...we all embrace a belief on our own level and terms, consciously or subconsciously.
 
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thefanwithnoname said:
So atheists keep saying. But no one asked for a definition iirc

Once questions get interesting its easier getting answers from a Tory politician
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Perhaps you could lead by example, and answer the questions and points raised for you, now that every answer you've asked has been answered, and probably more than once. :emoticon-0105-wink:



As a reminder.

You ask:

"Break it down, my additions in italics

Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710 Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to (past tense) (1)dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?"

He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed (present tense and change in stance) (2)

: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah (3)(affirms its not pagan). It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba (4)(includes Kaaba as symbol of Allah also), or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.'" (2.158)

Italics not clear? Its the bracketed bits"


I answer


I have answered it several times, but you seem to miss responding, so I'll have another go. I don't mind, I'm a patient sort of guy.

So, you seem to be looking at th etense of the first bit which I've numbered as (1)
Yep, that's past tense. They didn't like to take part as it was pagan. As confirmed by (2)
(3) This is where your argument starts to break down, but yep, at that point it suggests that it is no longer pagan in their eyes.

(4) Which for reasons raised in the points you ignore, is most likely pagan.

Your 'evidence' seems to be somone says 'god said', without anything else at all to support it, and plenty that shows it to be most likely untrue and they are pagan traditions that mohamed tried to incorporate.

You need evidence.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
It's because atheists won't have the same answers to your questions.
You're asking what a group believes, when there's no actual group.

It's like the difference between the vote on Scottish independence and following a political party.
One tells you what someone thinks about a single question, while the other is more in depth.

Feel free to ask a question, though.
I'll give you my answer. I can't speak for atheists as a whole, of course.
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No one is asking for uniformity, and I do believe my main beef with those purporting to be atheists is the hypocrisy of applying that to religion

For example if I ask you personally how you believe the world came into existence (no needed to answer just an example) no matter what your answer I won't apply it to DMD (albeit he claims not yo be atheist but you get my drift) yet many a times I get the christian creationist stance aimed at me although I am Muslim

Not only that but the whole science, religion and atheism discussions make certain assumptions so you, rightly, say evolution isn't about how we came to be (universe/world etc) and I agree but on the flipside of that is religion doesn't claim to explain photosynthesis in detail.

A person claiming atheism but saying I rely on science needs to see that science may explain photosynthesis and accurately but with origins its as much and often moreso a fairytale if we look at those who present the likes of abiogenisis theory (didnt you present this to me once? I could be wrong but sure we discussed it once)
 
thefanwithnoname said:
No one is asking for uniformity, and I do believe my main beef with those purporting to be atheists is the hypocrisy of applying that to religion

For example if I ask you personally how you believe the world came into existence (no needed to answer just an example) no matter what your answer I won't apply it to DMD (albeit he claims not yo be atheist but you get my drift) yet many a times I get the christian creationist stance aimed at me although I am Muslim

Not only that but the whole science, religion and atheism discussions make certain assumptions so you, rightly, say evolution isn't about how we came to be (universe/world etc) and I agree but on the flipside of that is religion doesn't claim to explain photosynthesis in detail.

A person claiming atheism but saying I rely on science needs to see that science may explain photosynthesis and accurately but with origins its as much and often moreso a fairytale if we look at those who present the likes of abiogenisis theory (didnt you present this to me once? I could be wrong but sure we discussed it once)
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You have got the wrong idea of what an atheist is.


It simply means a lack of belief in god or gods, no more, no less. You cannot apply the rest of that ^^^ to it.
 
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