Lads it was a definite red card. If you go in like that with studs showing and your foot that high then you will be walking. It was a dumb, reckless and unnecessary challenge. I never understand why players do that, the only reason I can think of is lack of intelligence.
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We all know that had Adebayor been playing for Man Utd at Old Trafford, then Webb would have only given him a yellow card. That is what a club in our position is up against.
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Agree with this (mostly) and also Spurfs comments earlier.
Ade is quality and has shown commitment and in no way is a distraction. Sure, he let his emotions get the better of him today, but you can only imagine the extra pressure on him when playing against the Arse. I doubt if anyone feels worse about how things worked out today for the club than Ade. The sending off changed the game and he will be fully aware that the result hinged on his actions.
However, I do think that with the rules as they are, Webb had little option but to show a red: it may have been harsh but just about justified. That it should also involve a 3 match ban is totally OTT. But thems the rules.
Let's not crucify the guy please!!
Going back to the original point... well now we'll see. If he's the player that we'll need he'll fell sorry and responsible for what happened and come back determined to make amends. If this happens it could be just what he needed to *spur* him on to a greater contribution in the remaining 2/3 of the season. There could be positives from this. On the other hand it could be indicative of the player that we thought he might be before he joined us. On balance I'm tempted to believe it was just a moment of madness, he's just too fired up having scored his first goal in ages against the team he particularly wants to score against. At least now he's played both Citeh and LeArs away and (if possible) can concentrate on being the player he clearly has the potential to be.
Incidentally did his team qualify for the ACN?
And LDL: Take your point about it being a red card "anywhere", but ManU players have got away with worse than that before!
Also agreed with earlier point that these tackles are always given red, but (IMHO) equally (perhaps more) disgraceful behaviour of feigning injury and diving is going unpunished.
Incidentally did his team qualify for the ACN?
And LDL: Take your point about it being a red card "anywhere", but ManU players have got away with worse than that before!
Also agreed with earlier point that these tackles are always given red, but (IMHO) equally (perhaps more) disgraceful behaviour of feigning injury and diving is going unpunished.
You can't break someone's leg or end their career by diving and shirt pulling though.
The likes of Stephen Hunt (On Petr Cech), Roy Keane (on Alfe Inge Haaland) and Martin Taylor (On Eduardo) through their own cynicism have changed the way in which games are refereed. Prevention over cure etc.
What Keane, Hunt and Taylor did is more disgusting than any dive you will ever see.
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Hunts challenge on Cech is not comparable with the other two. It was barely a foul, no matter how unfortunate the consequences. There are loads of 'better' examples of career threatening fouls.
There is no way you would mention it if it hadn't been on your keeper.
There is no way you would mention it if it hadn't been on your keeper.
Your wrong. I'm not as tribal as most. A man nearly died because of the disgusting actions of another. It has nothing to do with who he plays for, I couldn't care less. In the same way I couldn't care less what colour shirt Roy Keane was wearing when he crippled Haaland
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I'm not.... But if thats what you want to think then fine.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYjJGUoMo3I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
How can you possibly compare this to the Keane/Haaland incident??
And for a real career-threatening incident involving an on rushing keeper, look no further than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYEpVjpinI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Not belittling Cechs injury - just the intent behind its cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYjJGUoMo3I&feature=youtube_gdata_player
How can you possibly compare this to the Keane/Haaland incident??
And for a real career-threatening incident involving an on rushing keeper, look no further than this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYEpVjpinI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Not belittling Cechs injury - just the intent behind its cause.
That's very true DL but I qualified it by saying intent is a different matter. I take your point however and in hindsight, it was a reckless challenge and therefore dangerous, so in the modern game Red was correct. I am still appalled with the effect these red cards have on the game that thousands of people pay a lot of money to see.
How about this: Send the offending player off for a reckless challenge ok but if it is clear that intent to injure was not the motivation then allow the team to replace him with another player. Thus you punish the player but not the team or the fans by spoiling the game. There are far too many red cards in the game nowadays and they have far too big an impact on the contest to be fair.
I know that the Arsenal fans were probably quite happy with the game, but even they would have preferred to have beaten Spurs with 11 men instead of the slightly tarnished win against 10 wouldn't they?
Your idea would never work as certain teams would use this to make the games a more physical affair. Thus benefiting their own styles, Stoke would love it.
It was a red card for me and he cost us big time.
That said I'm more annoyed by Huddlestone than Adebayor, the guy can pass a ball but is lazy and looks so casual its unreal.
That said I'm more annoyed by Huddlestone than Adebayor, the guy can pass a ball but is lazy and looks so casual its unreal.
All players likely to get stuck in risk red cards at some point. I'd be more concerned if he wasn't bothered, he looked fired up yesterday, maybe a little too fired up
But he's a handful for any defence and a good option to have. The more options the better obviously.
It would be exploited as teams would be less afraid to get stuck in and would take more risks in tackles as they would not be afraid to be sent off if their team can just put on a sub instead of them. Teams would just make more professional fouls as they would have little to no fear of red cards.
He made a stupid mistake yesterday and his injuries have been annoying, but the fee we paid for him literally wouldn't buy a decent Championship striker.
He's a very good player and I expect him to show it during the rest of the season, though we do face his absence again in January, annoyingly.
The problem isn't Adebayor, it's that we have no back up strikers.
He's a very good player and I expect him to show it during the rest of the season, though we do face his absence again in January, annoyingly.
The problem isn't Adebayor, it's that we have no back up strikers.