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Acun Ilıcalı

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Kalman II, Dec 14, 2024.

  1. DazzaHatty

    DazzaHatty Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, we're just another Fortuna Sittard and Shellbourne to him. Heck he's already sacked a well loved manager to the fans of Maribor immediately after his purchase again. The man just won't learn. He's Einstein's theory of insanity in human form.
     
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  2. eimaj

    eimaj Well-Known Member

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    He's obviously wealthy but I struggle to believe he has the money to spare to spunk it all up the wall.

    He's made a number of mistakes but the only way he gets out of this with any credibility, or money, is with promotion.
     
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  3. tigerrev

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    I disagree with every decision Acun has made.

    So you disagree with sacking Averladze and appointing Rosie? You disagree with sacking Wally and appointing Selles? As others have said - big mistakes have been made under this owner. Averladze and Wally were both comedy appointments. Thankfully Acun had the willingness to recognize his mistakes and get rid when he had to.
    As this season has progressed, the decision to sack Rosie has looked ever more baffling! 7th place in the 2nd tier is something like our 12th best league finish ever. Not saying he would have repeated that this season, but he couldn't have done any worse than Wally.

    As for Allam - don't forget they took us down to league 1 and only invested in players and backed McCann at that stage because they new no one was buying a league 1 club.
     
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  4. eimaj

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    Hindsight's a wonderful thing though isn't it. If we didn't sack Mccann it'd be unlikely we'd have had to sack Shota and therefore wouldn't have ended up with Rosie.

    Similarly, we have no idea how well Rosie would have done with the current team.
     
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  5. DazzaHatty

    DazzaHatty Well-Known Member

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    You're been facetious here. Arveladze should never have replaced McCann so what even is your point?
     
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  6. tigerrev

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    You said you disagreed with EVERY decision Acun has made. Averladze did replace Mccann - should or shouldn't have doesn't come into it. So I assume Acun's decision to ditch Averladze was one you didn't agree with?
     
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  7. tigerrev

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    And we have no idea how McCann would have done had he remained in post
     
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  8. DazzaHatty

    DazzaHatty Well-Known Member

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    Haha you're hilarious...
     
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  9. tigerrev

    tigerrev Well-Known Member

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    Or factually accurate. What you meant was you don't agree with some of the managerial appointments he has made - not every decision he has made.
     
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    DazzaHatty Well-Known Member

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    What was the need to find that little nit pick? It literally did nothing to detract my point or emphasise yours. Absolutely nothing whatsoever. To be pretentious I disagree with 99.8% of his decisions. The 0.2 percent been the sackings of Shotta and Wally. Is that better? Is it pretentious enough?
     
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  11. Jim the Tiger

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    He has been done over by people he trusted. Give him time, I think he has realised.
     
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  12. tigerrev

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    So basically you disagree with about 50% of Acun's decisions - the ones to appoint Averladze and Wally.
    Any evidence for Tan Kesler being "fraudulent?"
    And why was last January's transfer window pointless? It gave Rosie a decent chance of getting us into a playoff place.
     
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  13. DazzaHatty

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    You're assuming I was talking about Kesler as been fraudulent. I wasn't actually that was also Shotta. Him and Acun are mates. Interesting you mentioned Tan though. You obviously have some thoughts about it otherwise his name wouldn't be mentioned. Interesting.

    The January push was pointless. It really was completely pointless! Nobody really thought we'd break ahead of Southampton, Leeds, West Brom or Norwich. It really was like he was playing a football sim in real life.
     
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  14. tigerrev

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    I assumed you meant Kessler. I have no idea why he left the club and I suspect you don't either. Disagree on January - We had a chance of the top 6 and although we would probably have been outsiders had we made it, who knows? Often a team with momentum gets promoted through the playoffs. I remember Watford doing it several years ago (but regretting it the next season as they ended up with 15 points).

    There's no guarantee a team will get another crack at the top 6 the following season, so why not go for it when you have the chance?
     
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  15. gftiger

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    Acun is estimated to be worth just short of £80m, which is quite poor for a very rich person. Most of that will be tied up in assets too.

    Acun Medya bought City for something like £30m, which would be almost 40% of his entire wealth. I remember something on one of the City podcasts of it being said Acun put in £200k+ a week since talking over the club, bringing his investment up to £50m at least.

    It would be fair to assume he simply couldn’t fund the club solely with his own money.
     
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  16. Ric Glasgow

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    Absolutely correct with your Allam statement,undeniable,down to League 1 we went,back up we came...$$$$Sold..

    It's also correct that under the Allams and prior to the old boy pressing the self destruct button,we were a joy to watch,we had some truly unbelievable line-ups,a top drawer manager,cup final,Premier league football again and even a brief look at Europe.?
     
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  17. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

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    I can't see how or why he's had to prop this Club up to the tune of £200k a week? Gate receipts,sponsorship deals,player sales,surely that makes the Club self sufficient?
     
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  18. gftiger

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    Baz Cooper did a run-down in the HDM back in February and the club apparently lost close to £400k a week in those accounts. Things might be better now with wages being lower, but we’ve been reliant on additional funding the whole time he’s been owner.

    We lose much less than a lot of other clubs, but we’re nowhere near being self-sufficient.
     
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  19. eimaj

    eimaj Well-Known Member

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    Even if there's a behind the scenes money man, they won't be handing it out for the good of their health - they'll be expecting something in return somewhere. People don't accrue this level of wealth accidentally.
     
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  20. Ric Glasgow

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    I'll take your word on it but I'll seek out the article to give me some understanding of how we've arrived at those figures.We've shifted some players on for fairly significant amounts of money so I'm struggling to grasp this.
     
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