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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by tigers1970, May 13, 2024.

  1. zimozimo

    zimozimo Well-Known Member

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    I think you’ll find that we live in a society that is the product of multiculturalism. Probably wouldn’t be anywhere near as good if all the racist Brits had gotten their way though!
     
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  2. HCAFCHangout

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    Yeah there's a lot nuance to it. You could argue that even though he's done good. His public figure opens him up to ridicule. But I get your point
     
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  3. Summerof69

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    I’m certainly not a ‘lefty’ but there’s no point in trying to reason with anyone who thinks that comment isn’t racist.
     
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  4. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    ...and some continue to do so. But for some reason it's overlooked .
    Just one example, anybody bought any products made in China recently? Only feel faux outrage when it suits eh? Brits or 'whites' the devil? Gtf
     
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  5. Kalman

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    Skill issue.
     
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  6. Qatartiger Cambridgetiger

    Qatartiger Cambridgetiger Well-Known Member

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    Is this really the New Manager thread?
     
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  7. Kalman

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    Lol. Lmao even.
     
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  8. bradymk2

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    Random but
    Anyone been kotor, montenegro?
    Think its legit a hidden gem
    Looks incredible

    And no you nerds
    It doesnt mean knights of the old republic
     
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  9. bradymk2

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    You filthy man
     
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  10. Summerof69

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    That post says a lot more about you than it does me.
     
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  11. Gone For A Walk

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    That post says a lot more about you than it does me.
     
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  12. Tony Angelino

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    It said there would be a recording on tigers +, not sure if that means live or highlights
     
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  13. Summerof69

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    We all know that’s precisely what he meant but you carry on trying to justify it.
     
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  14. Kalman

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    Why, are they violent or something? Seems like a racist insinuation.
     
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  15. Gone For A Walk

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    I honestly 100% don't think he did. I certainly wouldn't had I posted it. I haven't been trying to "justify" anything.!
     
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  16. Heimdallr

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    These types of arguments/discussions don't do anyone any favours and leave everyone grubbier.
     
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    Lovely place, some great motor biking roads in that area when they are not chocka with tourists, service in bars and restaurants can be slow and poor.
     
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  18. zimozimo

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    What do you suggest instead? Because unfortunately, this forum has to reckon with the fact that there are posters on here that regularly post racist comments, and that is not okay. There should be no tolerance for it whatsoever. Visibly challenging people on their abhorrent and outdated views shows to other members – and potential members – that people here don’t accept these offensive views and that this is a space accepting of all people. If posters stay silent, it shows that ignorance is tolerated, we all become complicit, and everyone loses until this community dies.
     
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  19. Idi Amin

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    I reckon we legit have enough people to have a 10th crusade!
     
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  20. Benjo

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    I consider it more a philosophical point than a semantic one. You've ignored the last line of my post and just gone in with the tribal ****e like most people do, and I knew it was coming from someone. At no point have I condoned the comment, so I'm not 'letting anyone off the hook'. I'm deliberately not taking any part in condemning or condoning the original comment. I'm definitely not supporting it and I'm definitely not looking to shame anyone for it either. I've not touched it. I haven't alluded to my thoughts on it other than the fact I questioned the legitimacy of something said against it.

    What I don't agree with is the notion of punching down and where I believe it subconsciously comes from. True equality will only come from harmony in my opinion, which stupid comments, nor fighting about them will ever achieve. Personally I believe in individuality, not group identity - I'm just trying to explain my rhetoric.

    In terms of 'sub', it literally just means smaller, or off-branching when referring to groups, as you've essentially said yourself... Which is literally what I'm referring to when I talk about sub-groups. There's no alternative superiority suggestion there - it's a fact that sub-groups are smaller than 'groups', plain and simple, smaller meaning in the minority. 'Punching down' however, connotes causing damage from a position of superiority, whether we're talking literally or metaphorically.

    In terms of 'privilege' I have no more or less rights than anyone else here, so we must be talking about either 'historic privilege', which is literally history, or instead referring to 'wealth/affluence'. I'm yet to see anyone make a legitimate argument for a single specific special advantage or specific human right that I have that others in the same country as me currently don't, based solely on the colour of my skin. Real advantages purely come from wealth, and thankfully anyone has the ability to become wealthy through a variety of different means. Some are born into wealth, yes, and they tend to have more opportunities to transition into their own wealth. This has nothing to do with ID factors or groups in my opinion. There are wealthy, influential, powerful people from all different backgrounds and religions in the UK.

    I've gone on about wealth a bit much there, but I've always found when people talk about privilege that's quickly where it goes to, and as of right now, I'm not convinced there's any other genuine factor that could legitimately be considered as someone having more or less privilege than someone else. I believe anyone has the ability to be the best they can be and 'get theirs' should they have the aspiration and determination to do so. I don't think people are prevented from wealth accrual based on their nationality, skin colour etc.

    I shouldn't have to, but I'll clarify again, I'm not saying racism is OK. Best way to be - treat people how you want to be treated and leave it at that.
     
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