Aber's Music Thread x3

[BluefromBridgend]

As soon as I get to 60 - or get made redundant - I’m off.
We have a flat in Gibraltar which is currently rented out.
Our plan is to live near Marbella and run the Gib flat as an Airbnb.

Best of luck with the move bcfc. I think many on here think that with some grudging jealousy.

Better weather, great beaches, good food and drink. Attractive young women wearing minimal clothing. What more can a man want?

As a reasoned voice of Ashtip Gate you are always welcome to join conversations on here.

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

So I've listened to half a dozen of their songs and there's no denying that they are excellent at what they do. I didn't have an issue with the language and in fact, I thought it enhanced the experience. The vocal layering is very accomplished and the instrumental musicians do what they should do for that style of music... keep it simple. I wouldn't accuse them of musical plagiarism but there's a myriad of clear influencers there... nothing wrong with that either.
Overall, perhaps a little bit clichéd for me but I can respect them. I got the impression that seeing and listening to them live would be the best experience.
Thanks for sharing and I will listen to some more.

You are clearly a musically intelligent guy Clingo.
I would say that, for me, music is similar to food, in that some food is quick, easy and hits the spot - scratches an itch if you like. Kebabs, burgers, chicken sandwiches - and other fast foods hit that spot and satisfy.
Other foods take longer to prepare and need to be consumed slowly.
This music is similar - it’s structurally simple - 1-4-5-1 with an occasional lift (quoting Hallelujah) - but it hits the spot.
If you analyse popular music, most (not all) very loved songs have a very simple structure based on hymns - 2 or 3 verses punctuated by a chorus and a ‘middle 8’.
This Spanish band adds another layer - there is another section between the verses and the chorus, but otherwise it’s still simple ‘fast food’ music.
Other, more complicated music (like Bowie and some classical music) demands more attentive listening and need concentration, rather than natural, effortless digestion. You need to sit and listen to it - whereas ‘fast food’ music can play in the background while you do something else.
There is no right or wrong - it’s all good - just different.

 

[clingo]

You are clearly a musically intelligent guy Clingo.
I would say that, for me, music is similar to food, in that some food is quick, easy and hits the spot - scratches an itch if you like. Kebabs, burgers, chicken sandwiches - and other fast foods hit that spot and satisfy.
Other foods take longer to prepare and need to be consumed slowly.
This music is similar - it’s structurally simple - 1-4-5-1 with an occasional lift (quoting Hallelujah) - but it hits the spot.
If you analyse popular music, most (not all) very loved songs have a very simple structure based on hymns - 2 or 3 verses punctuated by a chorus and a ‘middle 8’.
This Spanish band adds another layer - there is another section between the verses and the chorus, but otherwise it’s still simple ‘fast food’ music.
Other, more complicated music (like Bowie and some classical music) demands more attentive listening and need concentration, rather than natural, effortless digestion. You need to sit and listen to it - whereas ‘fast food’ music can play in the background while you do something else.
There is no right or wrong - it’s all good - just different.

Good morning.
An excellent reply and you're absolutely correct in what you say.
For me, music is about provoking an emotion of one kind or another. Put another way, it has to move me in some way.
You're also absolutely correct that sometimes I can over analyse music. As you may have guessed, I come from a very musical family. It's probably a habit that I've got into that my mother advocated, and that was to understand that I'm not the prime target of a musicians work and if a piece moves just one individual, then it is valuable.
I don't think I'm impatient with regard to music and many things have taken time to grow on me. However, and I understand that this is a personal foible, in my efforts to give things a fair chance, I tend to analyse pieces that don't immediately move me in some way.
So, you're absolutely right that the beauty of music is in the ears and mind of the beholder. We should definitely just embrace what we like as individuals and it was genuinely good to read you write with such enthusiasm about something that got through to you.

 

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Something from the soul maestro to see out the weekend

 

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Something from the soul maestro to see out the weekend

Class that Clingo

 

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Bonnie Tyler.....jack barsteward

 

[BluefromBridgend]

Bonnie Tyler.....jack barsteward

Possibly but a much more acceptable one. Great song.

I was waiting in Faro Airport a few years ago for a flight back home. Bonnie was on the same flight. She has a place on the Algarve. Lucky bugger.

Sat in the departure lounge she was happy to chat with other passengers about her songs and career. No airs and graces. Mind you, difficult to have those when you're flying Ryanair!!!

 

[remote]

Just reading an article about a court case regarding hand written lyrics by the Eagles for their album Hotel California. Long story, but comes down to their current ownership. Having been allegedly stolen in the 70s.

I've always liked the Eagles, since back when I was a kid. Put me in a minority of 1 when in school. It was all Genesis and the likes.

The Eagles were always heavily produced. Bill Szymczyk always polishing and polishing. A bit like Jim Steinman with Meat Loaf and the aforementioned Bonnie Tyler.

Anyway, I never thought Hotel California was their best work. A bit too commercial for me.

A big fan of Joe Walsh stuff. He brought a rockier edge to the Eagles when he joined. A different sound from the Bernie Leadon days.
I'd now probably listen to Walsh over the Eagles.
The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get is some album, with Meadows and Bookends contrasting with Rocky Mountain Way.

A bit of a roundabout way of getting to a favourite track of his.

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[bcfcredandwhite]

Good morning.
An excellent reply and you're absolutely correct in what you say.
For me, music is about provoking an emotion of one kind or another. Put another way, it has to move me in some way.
You're also absolutely correct that sometimes I can over analyse music. As you may have guessed, I come from a very musical family. It's probably a habit that I've got into that my mother advocated, and that was to understand that I'm not the prime target of a musicians work and if a piece moves just one individual, then it is valuable.
I don't think I'm impatient with regard to music and many things have taken time to grow on me. However, and I understand that this is a personal foible, in my efforts to give things a fair chance, I tend to analyse pieces that don't immediately move me in some way.
So, you're absolutely right that the beauty of music is in the ears and mind of the beholder. We should definitely just embrace what we like as individuals and it was genuinely good to read you write with such enthusiasm about something that got through to you.

Sorry for the delay in replying…
I too come from a musical background Clingo.
My mother taught piano and ran a community choir. My dad played the organ and ran the choir at our local church. Both parents sung in the Bristol Cathedral Choir. I was encouraged to learn violin when I was young and reached grade 7 (Trinity College) when I quit at 16. I also got grade 5 theory, grade 2 piano and Grade 2 trombone. However I’ve always been more interested in rock music and bought my first guitar at 16. I now have far too many guitars and they take up a lot of room in our house!!!
I am passionate about music but don’t like my passion being controlled.
I work in IT and mostly love it. I’m happy to work within the rules and constraints that the industry requires.
When I got made redundant in 2003 I spent a very difficult year teaching GCSE music - in Wales actually. I studied at UWIC and taught in West Mon and Cynfig Hill schools, but I absolutely HATED it. It put me off music for a few years - because my passion had become my job and that sucked the creativity and enjoyment from it.
Lucky I’m back working in IT and back in love with music again - although rarely pick up my guitars these days due to time constraints.

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

Just reading an article about a court case regarding hand written lyrics by the Eagles for their album Hotel California. Long story, but comes down to their current ownership. Having been allegedly stolen in the 70s.

I've always liked the Eagles, since back when I was a kid. Put me in a minority of 1 when in school. It was all Genesis and the likes.

The Eagles were always heavily produced. Bill Szymczyk always polishing and polishing. A bit like Jim Steinman with Meat Loaf and the aforementioned Bonnie Tyler.

Anyway, I never thought Hotel California was their best work. A bit too commercial for me.

A big fan of Joe Walsh stuff. He brought a rockier edge to the Eagles when he joined. A different sound from the Bernie Leadon days.
I'd now probably listen to Walsh over the Eagles.
The Smoker You Drink The Player You Get is some album, with Meadows and Bookends contrasting with Rocky Mountain Way.

A bit of a roundabout way of getting to a favourite track of his.

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Love the Eagles. I like Joe Walsh, Glenn Frey and Don Henley’s solo stuff too. Not sure Don Felder did anything solo(??)
Hotel California is one of my party tracks if I’m drunk enough and someone shoves a guitar into my hands - however it’s not my favourite.
I love Desperado, Tequila Sunrise and Already Gone - from the ‘On the Border’ album.
I have Don Henley’s solo album with ‘Boys of Summer’ on - the name escapes me but it’s a good album - imho.
Sadly I read that the band fell out with each other over money - Henley and Frey claimed that they deserved more money than the others because they wrote more of the songs. Sad.

 

[remote]

Love the Eagles. I like Joe Walsh, Glenn Frey and Don Henley’s solo stuff too. Not sure Don Felder did anything solo(??)
Hotel California is one of my party tracks if I’m drunk enough and someone shoves a guitar into my hands - however it’s not my favourite.
I love Desperado, Tequila Sunrise and Already Gone - from the ‘On the Border’ album.
I have Don Henley’s solo album with ‘Boys of Summer’ on - the name escapes me but it’s a good album - imho.
Sadly I read that the band fell out with each other over money - Henley and Frey claimed that they deserved more money than the others because they wrote more of the songs. Sad.

It's off the album Building the Perfect Beast.

Sad Cafe, Witchy Woman, Last Resort, Twenty One, Best of my Love. Different albums, different sounds, all good tracks.
If you want to hear how good their voices were, listen to Seven Bridges Road.

Also, if ever you've watched the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, you'll have heard their instrumental, Journey of the Sorcerer.

The Eagles split was acrimonious. They were playing at a political fund raiser when it came to a head with punches thrown and threats of death.
It was around the time bands were going on huge farewell tours, then 2 years later, coining it in doing re-union tours.
Don Henley was interviewed after the split and asked when they would be reforming. His answer? When hell freezes over.

14 years later they got back together.
The name of the tour?
Hell Freezes Over.

I saw them on that tour in the old Wembley stadium. 2 days later I flew to California on business which felt bizarre.

It was a strange audience. We were about the youngest there.
I've been to lots of concerts of older bands and there's always a wide range of ages. Kids with parents or grandparents, having been brought up listening to them.
With the Eagles, there was a generation missing.

Joe Walsh sang Ordinary Average Guy while wearing a balloon giraffe hat. To be honest, Ordinary Average Guy is one thing Joe Walsh most definitely isn't.
Alexis Korner interviewed him on his Guitar Greats radio show, early 80s. Surreal. You can still find it on BBC website.

 

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[ninian opinion]

Heard this track on Kin. Pressed Shazam & Houndtooth but neither recognises it. Googled Kin soundtrack to find it. Here it is. I’m hooked

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[bcfcredandwhite]

It's off the album Building the Perfect Beast.

Sad Cafe, Witchy Woman, Last Resort, Twenty One, Best of my Love. Different albums, different sounds, all good tracks.
If you want to hear how good their voices were, listen to Seven Bridges Road.

Also, if ever you've watched the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, you'll have heard their instrumental, Journey of the Sorcerer.

The Eagles split was acrimonious. They were playing at a political fund raiser when it came to a head with punches thrown and threats of death.
It was around the time bands were going on huge farewell tours, then 2 years later, coining it in doing re-union tours.
Don Henley was interviewed after the split and asked when they would be reforming. His answer? When hell freezes over.

14 years later they got back together.
The name of the tour?
Hell Freezes Over.

I saw them on that tour in the old Wembley stadium. 2 days later I flew to California on business which felt bizarre.

It was a strange audience. We were about the youngest there.
I've been to lots of concerts of older bands and there's always a wide range of ages. Kids with parents or grandparents, having been brought up listening to them.
With the Eagles, there was a generation missing.

Joe Walsh sang Ordinary Average Guy while wearing a balloon giraffe hat. To be honest, Ordinary Average Guy is one thing Joe Walsh most definitely isn't.
Alex's Korner interviewed him on his Guitar Greats radio show, early 80s. Surreal. You can still find it on BBC website.

Thank you CCFCRemotesupport.
For info (to everyone) I try and remember stuff myself before I Google it - I’m trying to exercise my memory but that album name wouldn’t come to me and it’s in my vinyl cupboard somewhere so I couldn’t access it easily.
Another thing that I’m trying to think of is the name of a relatively recent track from the Hell Freezes Over album you mentioned (which I have somewhere on CD) - not ‘New York Minute’ - but released around the same time. Great song but I’m damned if I can remember it now !!
Come on Grey Cells - don’t fail me !!!

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

Dammit - I gave in and googled - it’s ’I can’t tell you why’.
There are so many great Eagles tracks; Take it Easy is another I play at parties, but there’s Jonny come Lately, Take it to the Limit - the list goes on.
Great band. Touring soon apparently - with Glenn Frey’s son standing in for him so I believe…..

 

[remote]

Thank you CCFCRemotesupport.
For info (to everyone) I try and remember stuff myself before I Google it - I’m trying to exercise my memory but that album name wouldn’t come to me and it’s in my vinyl cupboard somewhere so I couldn’t access it easily.
Another thing that I’m trying to think of is the name of a relatively recent track from the Hell Freezes Over album you mentioned (which I have somewhere on CD) - not ‘New York Minute’ - but released around the same time. Great song but I’m damned if I can remember it now !!
Come on Grey Cells - don’t fail me !!!

Can't remember the tracks off the album either.
You say a 'recent track' from Hell Freezes Over. It was released 30 years ago.

The tour playlist was great. Because they'd all done solo stuff, besides the Eagles tracks, there were little pockets of solo tracks. It meant that while the concert was over 2 hours non-stop, vocalists were only doing 3 or 4 tracks before getting a break or becoming 'backing singers'.

It was the contributing factor to the split. They could all write, sing and produce which resulted in lots of friction.

 

[remote]

Dammit - I gave in and googled - it’s ’I can’t tell you why’.
There are so many great Eagles tracks; Take it Easy is another I play at parties, but there’s Jonny come Lately, Take it to the Limit - the list goes on.
Great band. Touring soon apparently - with Glenn Frey’s son standing in for him so I believe…..

It's why I say Hotel California wasn't their best stuff.
All through their albums are superb tracks. It's the commercial sound that got Hotel California the air time which brought it to the masses.

 

[remote]

Dammit - I gave in and googled - it’s ’I can’t tell you why’.
There are so many great Eagles tracks; Take it Easy is another I play at parties, but there’s Jonny come Lately, Take it to the Limit - the list goes on.
Great band. Touring soon apparently - with Glenn Frey’s son standing in for him so I believe…..

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