Aber's Music Thread x3

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I agree it's a matter of choice clingo. Music of all genres is so accessable these days with Amazon/Spotify/Apple and the ubiquitous Youtube all offering massive choices to enjoy.

The problem seems to be the "older" generation on here are starved of new music that fits their preference - I include myself in there.

It's not a question of being "locked in the past", it's all about personal choice. Mine stretches from Small Faces through Frampton, Billy Joel, 10cc, Queen et al, and always had a soft spot back in the day for Chrissie Hynde. <whistle>

To each his own I suppose, but my personal lack of connection with the current crop tends to frustrate rather than worry me - I tend to live in the past.
 
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Oldsparkey said:
I agree it's a matter of choice clingo. Music of all genres is so accessable these days with Amazon/Spotify/Apple and the ubiquitous Youtube all offering massive choices to enjoy.

The problem seems to be the "older" generation on here are starved of new music that fits their preference - I include myself in there.

It's not a question of being "locked in the past", it's all about personal choice. Mine stretches from Small Faces through Frampton, Billy Joel, 10cc, Queen et al, and always had a soft spot back in the day for Chrissie Hynde. <whistle>

To each his own I suppose, but my personal lack of connection with the current crop tends to frustrate rather than worry me - I tend to live in the past.
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Again, I got all of that from my dad back in the day.
The thing with all art forms is that it requires other people to create it. I don't understand a lot of what's produced today and because of my own ideas on being entertained or moved, I don't like a lot of it. However, perhaps we're witnessing the start of something as a generation stops relying on others and starts to produce their own art.
For us, we still have a huge back catalogue of things we like and it's certainly diverse enough to keep it fresh and interesting as shown in your debate about 10cc and Queen. I'm still discovering stuff that I like that was produced many decades ago.
 
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I think most of it is down to a lack of understanding as to what is being produced. That's not a criticism of our generation because we're not supposed to understand it. Just like the music of The Who et al wasn't intended to be understood by our parents. I go back to my argument that it all depends on your interpretation of what music is. To me, music is a moving feast that sometimes makes me throw up but that doesn't necessarily make it bad or unimportant.
Equally, I don't think we're "subjected," to anything in terms of art or entertainment. With so much choice now and the efficiency of off switches, we can either choose to listen or to ignore. Both are valid choices.
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My knowledge and experience of music is much narrower than yours Clingo. I can't read or play music and people say when singing I hold a good note. The problem is that it's the same note, sometimes correct but mostly wrong.

I think I have an ear for a tune, a melody and lyrics which can be wide and varied like my favoured prog or narrow like punk. Both ends of the scale if you like.

But this is where I can draw a line when hearing much modern, repetitive, tuneless crap.

Perhaps, like Mrs BfB tells me (often) I'm narrow minded and should broaden my outlook. But I know what I like and what I don't like.

Clingo I bow to your much greater musical intellect and ability to see things in a broader perspective than me. <ok>
 
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I just think that if I programmed an AI system to make up a tune, or copy an old one - and then made it correct my voice to make it sound like I sing in tune - and then pass it off as my own music then I’d be a musical fraud.
I could ask AI to write me a novel…..

Tech specialist yes, musical artist hmmmm.
 
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BluefromBridgend said:
My knowledge and experience of music is much narrower than yours Clingo. I can't read or play music and people say when singing I hold a good note. The problem is that it's the same note, sometimes correct but mostly wrong.

I think I have an ear for a tune, a melody and lyrics which can be wide and varied like my favoured prog or narrow like punk. Both ends of the scale if you like.

But this is where I can draw a line when hearing much modern, repetitive, tuneless crap.

Perhaps, like Mrs BfB tells me (often) I'm narrow minded and should broaden my outlook. But I know what I like and what I don't like.

Clingo I bow to your much greater musical intellect and ability to see things in a broader perspective than me. <ok>
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Your musical intellect is as good as anyone else's including me. I guess in many respects it's a question of accepting that we're not intended to understand everything let alone like it.
Sparkey is spot on in saying that liking what we like is enough. It's then up to individuals to decide.
The beauty of the art world eh! It can defy logic without the need to defend doing so.
 
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bcfcredandwhite said:
I just think that if I programmed an AI system to make up a tune, or copy an old one - and then made it correct my voice to make it sound like I sing in tune - and then pass it off as my own music then I’d be a musical fraud.
I could ask AI to write me a novel…..

Tech specialist yes, musical artist hmmmm.
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Fair comment but even then the question is whether it brought enjoyment.
 
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bcfcredandwhite said:
I just think that if I programmed an AI system to make up a tune, or copy an old one - and then made it correct my voice to make it sound like I sing in tune - and then pass it off as my own music then I’d be a musical fraud.
I could ask AI to write me a novel…..

Tech specialist yes, musical artist hmmmm.
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I bet they said that when these first appeared.
Underpinned some big names over the decades though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moog_synthesizer
 
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ccfcremotesupport said:
Why do you think Cling can read music? He played the drums. And that's barely playing music.<laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>​
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You are in such trouble if you ever meet Clingo.

Got to have some musical knowledge to bash the right boxes and clatter the big, metal pizza plates at the right time.

There's always a job for him at the top of the Canton End at home games. Unpaid of course.
 
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blueturk the cat said:
(I know you're jesting) but to be fair I always thought that drummers in rock bands just hit any drum/cymbal they desired until I watched 'Whiplash' <yikes>
bloody good movie and it opened my eyes
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Indeed I was.
It is fascinating to see drum solos. Very skilled.
I saw Phil Collins on his first solo tour back in the 80s (Hammersmith Odeon I think). He opened with a drum duet with Chester Thompson. Quite special.

Right up there with Buddy Rich and Animal from the muppets.

Something quite primal about the drums.
 
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When I was in my late teens my I played in a band and the drummer was a nightmare - never turned up for practices - a law unto himself.
I think it’s a drummer ‘thing’
As I got older I ‘sessioned’ a bit for other bands and the drummer was always a problem - or missing!!
A bit like goalkeepers in football really - outfield players are two a penny at amateur level, but a good GK is like rocking-horse poo.
 
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When I was in my late teens my I played in a band and the drummer was a nightmare - never turned up for practices - a law unto himself.
I think it’s a drummer ‘thing’
As I got older I ‘sessioned’ a bit for other bands and the drummer was always a problem - or missing!!
A bit like goalkeepers in football really - outfield players are two a penny at amateur level, but a good GK is like rocking-horse poo.
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:angel:the cat agrees<nahnah>
 
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