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Thudds said:
This guy was banned off some previous forums, I recognise his posting style and name (I'm almost certain). Believe it or not, he's not that young (I think he's 40 odd).
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57 if you were to believe him, living in France with Karoo wifi. Never played Fifa but saw the FIFA stadium video on you tube ages before it came out & knows what 16 year old kids are saying about FM, which he also admits to playing.

He can eat more pizza hut slices at home than he can in the restaurant but can't bring himself to eat at Pizza Hut as it's one step away from being a tramp. He likes his kebabs from Hessle Road & enjoys staying in drinking, watching porn & having golden showers.

He's expecting us to go far in the Europa League, there or there abouts the final, our 2nd eleven is strong. Getting to the group stages will be a bigger achievement than getting to the FA Cup final, he says. He believes getting to the group stages of the Europa will also give us more clout in the transfer market but also thinks we'll be better off out of the competition now as we're not ready for it about 6/7 players short, obviously that's why he'd of been happy for us to lose to Stoke in exchange for a heavy win in Lokeren. He knows that we're not being televised in the Europa because nobody will be interested in us 'til at least the quarters but is ****ing angry that we are the only English team ever not to have their European match televised.

He doesn't think the £12m we got for Long will be spent, it'll just be banked to balance the books yet he suggests we buy amongst others Kalou, Darío Cvitanich, Nahki Wells, Jon Walters , Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Harry Kane, Peter Crouch, Max Gradel, Aboubakar, Stephan El Shaarawy, Ben Yedder, Óscar Cardozo, Aron Jóhannsson, & Andy Delort. He thinks we should sell Sagbo for £6m & buy Peter Crouch for £1.5m & also that Wickham is ****, Rhodes isn't good enough for the PL but thinks Deeney would be perfect after he saw some of his goals. When we only knew Bruce had put 2/3 offers in for players he knew that we'd bid for Stephan El Shaarawy, all going through.

He was first with the news that Magath would be getting sacked within two minutes to be replaced by Tim Sherwood two minutes later. He was the first to know the Rhode's deal was complete & being held up so Alex Bruce could agree terms with Blackburn. He announced before the club that both Dawson & Rhodes would be unveiled on the pitch prior to the game with Stoke at the weekend. Named their mum's & dads on FB as his source.

He embraces racism using phrases such as Irish Pikey when referring to Brian Lenihan, apparently they're always trying to rip someone off. He thinks Yids in an acceptable term & that Aaron Mclean looks like a pimp & drug dealer. He likes to suggest other posters are suffering with Asperger Disorder when they don't agree with him.

He knows everything football apart from how many legs the League Cup is played over.

He posts under at least two other alias' & has been banned previously.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, do you?
 
The regulations in place for a footballer applying for a work permit to move to a club in the United Kingdom remain frequently misunderstood and misinterpreted.

Various outlets, officials and supporters have quoted varied rules from the past, many of which remain relevant but have moved on from the assumed requirements for a footballer to be given the necessary immigration status.

Previously, a club would apply direct to the UK Government for a work permit, with the well-known requirement being that a player had to have played 75 per cent of his nation’s competitive games within the last two years to qualify.

Now, the relevant governing body must endorse any work permit application by a club before it is submitted to the UK Government, cutting down on the number of requests made directly to Government which are unlikely to succeed first time.

Who needs a work permit?

Any player who is over 16 years old and is not from the European Economic Area, which covers 32 countries aside from the UK requires a work permit to play for a British club.

A Commonwealth citizen with at least one grandparent who was born in the UK does not need to apply through the points based system. Such players will still require a work permit but go through a different process.

How to get a work permit

When a club signs a player who requires a work permit, they agree to sponsor the player to be in the UK, meaning they will provide the funds for his time in the country. A certificate of sponsorship is then produced by the club, which is then submitted to the relevant FA for them to consider an endorsement.

The Scottish FA’s rules on work permit endorsements follow the same guidelines as previously outlined by the UK Government. For the Scottish FA to give their approval, the player in question must have played 75 per cent of his nation’s competitive games – excluding friendlies – in the two years prior to the date of application.

Furthermore, the country the player is coming from must be in the top 70 of the FIFA rankings.

Failure to meet these requirements, unless it can be proven a player was unavailable for selection for a period of time, results in an automatic rejection of any application for an Scottish FA endorsement for a work permit certificate of sponsorship.

As of June 28, 2011, it costs an applicant £514 to apply by post for a work permit in the UK, or £850 in person to process the application on the same day. There is a reduction in cost for nationals from Croatia, Turkey or FYR Macedonia, with the same applications costing £459 and £765 respectively.

The appeals process

If an application is rejected, a club can then appeal to the governing body. An appeals panel will ultimately weigh up whether or not the player is, in their view, of the highest calibre and whether they would contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in the country.

That appeals panel typically sits within three to five working days of an appeal submission, although urgent hearings can be convened.

The panel is made up of three representatives from the relevant football bodies, typically officials from the league, the association and the player’s union. Up to three independent football experts, made up typically of former professionals, also sit on the panel.

An applicant club can object to an 'expert' being used on the panel up until 24 hours before the meeting is convened, sending their objections in writing to the relevant FA.

If an appeals panel does not find in favour of an applicant, no further application can be made until the subsequent season.

Status of immigration

The length of time a player can remain in the UK as a player depends on his grasp of the English language. There are two immigration statuses available to a player applying for a work permit: tier two and tier five.

Under tier two, a player can remain in the UK for an initial three years, with the possibility for an extension for a further two years. To qualify, the player must accrue 70 immigration points under the UK Government’s system. 50 are given for getting an FA endorsement, with 10 more given for being able to prove sufficient funding to remain in the country.

The final 10 are awarded on the basis of the player’s English. If the applicant comes from a predominantly English-speaking country, or has a degree from a course which was taught in English, the 10 points are subsequently awarded. Additionally, a player can sit an approved English language test upon their arrival in the UK to obtain tier two status.

Failing that, a player can apply for tier five status. Again, a certificate of sponsorship and proof of sponsorship is required but a visa is only valid for one year. However, the player can then sit an English language test within that year and apply to switch to tier two status.

The process simplified

A football association will endorse a certificate of sponsorship for a player if he has played 75 per cent of competitive games for a FIFA ranked top 70 nation over the past two years.

Failure to meet this requirement will see an application rejected, unless it can be proven a player was unavailable for selection due to injury.

A club may then appeal if the first application is rejected. An appeals panel will then convene to establish whether, in their view, the player's transfer would be of benefit to the game in the relevant country.

If they are in favour, the football association will then endorse the certificate, which then contributes the biggest part to the UK Government's criteria.


http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/193378-explained-uk-work-permit-rules-for-footballers/
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
57 if you were to believe him, living in France with Karoo wifi. Never played Fifa but saw the FIFA stadium video on you tube ages before it came out & knows what 16 year old kids are saying about FM, which he also admits to playing.

He can eat more pizza hut slices at home than he can in the restaurant but can't bring himself to eat at Pizza Hut as it's one step away from being a tramp. He likes his kebabs from Hessle Road & enjoys staying in drinking, watching porn & having golden showers.

He's expecting us to go far in the Europa League, there or there abouts the final, our 2nd eleven is strong. Getting to the group stages will be a bigger achievement than getting to the FA Cup final, he says. He believes getting to the group stages of the Europa will also give us more clout in the transfer market but also thinks we'll be better off out of the competition now as we're not ready for it about 6/7 players short, obviously that's why he'd of been happy for us to lose to Stoke in exchange for a heavy win in Lokeren. He knows that we're not being televised in the Europa because nobody will be interested in us 'til at least the quarters but is f**ing angry that we are the only English team ever not to have their European match televised.

He doesn't think the £12m we got for Long will be spent, it'll just be banked to balance the books yet he suggests we buy amongst others Kalou, Darío Cvitanich, Nahki Wells, Jon Walters , Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Harry Kane, Peter Crouch, Max Gradel, Aboubakar, Stephan El Shaarawy, Ben Yedder, Óscar Cardozo, Aron Jóhannsson, & Andy Delort. He thinks we should sell Sagbo for £6m & buy Peter Crouch for £1.5m & also that Wickham is s**t, Rhodes isn't good enough for the PL but thinks Deeney would be perfect after he saw some of his goals. When we only knew Bruce had put 2/3 offers in for players he knew that we'd bid for Stephan El Shaarawy, all going through.

He was first with the news that Magath would be getting sacked within two minutes to be replaced by Tim Sherwood two minutes later. He was the first to know the Rhode's deal was complete & being held up so Alex Bruce could agree terms with Blackburn. He announced before the club that both Dawson & Rhodes would be unveiled on the pitch prior to the game with Stoke at the weekend. Named their mum's & dads on FB as his source.

He embraces racism using phrases such as Irish Pikey when referring to Brian Lenihan, apparently they're always trying to rip someone off. He thinks Yids in an acceptable term & that Aaron Mclean looks like a pimp & drug dealer. He likes to suggest other posters are suffering with Asperger Disorder when they don't agree with him.

He knows everything football apart from how many legs the League Cup is played over.

He posts under at least two other alias' & has been banned previously.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, do you?
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LOL

Jesus Ben..

I'm definately ready for bed after reading that. You pay close attention to detail. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
57 if you were to believe him, living in France with Karoo wifi. Never played Fifa but saw the FIFA stadium video on you tube ages before it came out & knows what 16 year old kids are saying about FM, which he also admits to playing.

He can eat more pizza hut slices at home than he can in the restaurant but can't bring himself to eat at Pizza Hut as it's one step away from being a tramp. He likes his kebabs from Hessle Road & enjoys staying in drinking, watching porn & having golden showers.

He's expecting us to go far in the Europa League, there or there abouts the final, our 2nd eleven is strong. Getting to the group stages will be a bigger achievement than getting to the FA Cup final, he says. He believes getting to the group stages of the Europa will also give us more clout in the transfer market but also thinks we'll be better off out of the competition now as we're not ready for it about 6/7 players short, obviously that's why he'd of been happy for us to lose to Stoke in exchange for a heavy win in Lokeren. He knows that we're not being televised in the Europa because nobody will be interested in us 'til at least the quarters but is ****ing angry that we are the only English team ever not to have their European match televised.

He doesn't think the £12m we got for Long will be spent, it'll just be banked to balance the books yet he suggests we buy amongst others Kalou, Darío Cvitanich, Nahki Wells, Jon Walters , Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Harry Kane, Peter Crouch, Max Gradel, Aboubakar, Stephan El Shaarawy, Ben Yedder, Óscar Cardozo, Aron Jóhannsson, & Andy Delort. He thinks we should sell Sagbo for £6m & buy Peter Crouch for £1.5m & also that Wickham is ****, Rhodes isn't good enough for the PL but thinks Deeney would be perfect after he saw some of his goals. When we only knew Bruce had put 2/3 offers in for players he knew that we'd bid for Stephan El Shaarawy, all going through.

He was first with the news that Magath would be getting sacked within two minutes to be replaced by Tim Sherwood two minutes later. He was the first to know the Rhode's deal was complete & being held up so Alex Bruce could agree terms with Blackburn. He announced before the club that both Dawson & Rhodes would be unveiled on the pitch prior to the game with Stoke at the weekend. Named their mum's & dads on FB as his source.

He embraces racism using phrases such as Irish Pikey when referring to Brian Lenihan, apparently they're always trying to rip someone off. He thinks Yids in an acceptable term & that Aaron Mclean looks like a pimp & drug dealer. He likes to suggest other posters are suffering with Asperger Disorder when they don't agree with him.

He knows everything football apart from how many legs the League Cup is played over.

He posts under at least two other alias' & has been banned previously.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, do you?
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I'm more shocked you bothered to type all that out.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
57 if you were to believe him, living in France with Karoo wifi. Never played Fifa but saw the FIFA stadium video on you tube ages before it came out & knows what 16 year old kids are saying about FM, which he also admits to playing.

He can eat more pizza hut slices at home than he can in the restaurant but can't bring himself to eat at Pizza Hut as it's one step away from being a tramp. He likes his kebabs from Hessle Road & enjoys staying in drinking, watching porn & having golden showers.

He's expecting us to go far in the Europa League, there or there abouts the final, our 2nd eleven is strong. Getting to the group stages will be a bigger achievement than getting to the FA Cup final, he says. He believes getting to the group stages of the Europa will also give us more clout in the transfer market but also thinks we'll be better off out of the competition now as we're not ready for it about 6/7 players short, obviously that's why he'd of been happy for us to lose to Stoke in exchange for a heavy win in Lokeren. He knows that we're not being televised in the Europa because nobody will be interested in us 'til at least the quarters but is ****ing angry that we are the only English team ever not to have their European match televised.

He doesn't think the £12m we got for Long will be spent, it'll just be banked to balance the books yet he suggests we buy amongst others Kalou, Darío Cvitanich, Nahki Wells, Jon Walters , Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Harry Kane, Peter Crouch, Max Gradel, Aboubakar, Stephan El Shaarawy, Ben Yedder, Óscar Cardozo, Aron Jóhannsson, & Andy Delort. He thinks we should sell Sagbo for £6m & buy Peter Crouch for £1.5m & also that Wickham is ****, Rhodes isn't good enough for the PL but thinks Deeney would be perfect after he saw some of his goals. When we only knew Bruce had put 2/3 offers in for players he knew that we'd bid for Stephan El Shaarawy, all going through.

He was first with the news that Magath would be getting sacked within two minutes to be replaced by Tim Sherwood two minutes later. He was the first to know the Rhode's deal was complete & being held up so Alex Bruce could agree terms with Blackburn. He announced before the club that both Dawson & Rhodes would be unveiled on the pitch prior to the game with Stoke at the weekend. Named their mum's & dads on FB as his source.

He embraces racism using phrases such as Irish Pikey when referring to Brian Lenihan, apparently they're always trying to rip someone off. He thinks Yids in an acceptable term & that Aaron Mclean looks like a pimp & drug dealer. He likes to suggest other posters are suffering with Asperger Disorder when they don't agree with him.

He knows everything football apart from how many legs the League Cup is played over.

He posts under at least two other alias' & has been banned previously.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, do you?
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****ing top draw, Sir Ben!
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
57 if you were to believe him, living in France with Karoo wifi. Never played Fifa but saw the FIFA stadium video on you tube ages before it came out & knows what 16 year old kids are saying about FM, which he also admits to playing.

He can eat more pizza hut slices at home than he can in the restaurant but can't bring himself to eat at Pizza Hut as it's one step away from being a tramp. He likes his kebabs from Hessle Road & enjoys staying in drinking, watching porn & having golden showers.

He's expecting us to go far in the Europa League, there or there abouts the final, our 2nd eleven is strong. Getting to the group stages will be a bigger achievement than getting to the FA Cup final, he says. He believes getting to the group stages of the Europa will also give us more clout in the transfer market but also thinks we'll be better off out of the competition now as we're not ready for it about 6/7 players short, obviously that's why he'd of been happy for us to lose to Stoke in exchange for a heavy win in Lokeren. He knows that we're not being televised in the Europa because nobody will be interested in us 'til at least the quarters but is ****ing angry that we are the only English team ever not to have their European match televised.

He doesn't think the £12m we got for Long will be spent, it'll just be banked to balance the books yet he suggests we buy amongst others Kalou, Darío Cvitanich, Nahki Wells, Jon Walters , Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Harry Kane, Peter Crouch, Max Gradel, Aboubakar, Stephan El Shaarawy, Ben Yedder, Óscar Cardozo, Aron Jóhannsson, & Andy Delort. He thinks we should sell Sagbo for £6m & buy Peter Crouch for £1.5m & also that Wickham is ****, Rhodes isn't good enough for the PL but thinks Deeney would be perfect after he saw some of his goals. When we only knew Bruce had put 2/3 offers in for players he knew that we'd bid for Stephan El Shaarawy, all going through.

He was first with the news that Magath would be getting sacked within two minutes to be replaced by Tim Sherwood two minutes later. He was the first to know the Rhode's deal was complete & being held up so Alex Bruce could agree terms with Blackburn. He announced before the club that both Dawson & Rhodes would be unveiled on the pitch prior to the game with Stoke at the weekend. Named their mum's & dads on FB as his source.

He embraces racism using phrases such as Irish Pikey when referring to Brian Lenihan, apparently they're always trying to rip someone off. He thinks Yids in an acceptable term & that Aaron Mclean looks like a pimp & drug dealer. He likes to suggest other posters are suffering with Asperger Disorder when they don't agree with him.

He knows everything football apart from how many legs the League Cup is played over.

He posts under at least two other alias' & has been banned previously.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about, do you?
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Your deep interest in all things Eurotiger may be damaging to your health Ben
 
Cortez91 said:
I thought the great acquisition was talking about Hernandez.

Hopefully you're right and he meant somebody else on top of Hernandez.
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Thudds said:
I think it's the other way mate.

Bruce said a few things are in place and making progress, particularly on one that is really close and he will keep his mouth shut until it's all signed off/complete, a journo then asked whether its a defender, midfielder or striker. Bruce then said it's a striker so it's deffo Hernandez he is referring too.

So I think it will be a midfielder (the other one).
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Think you're both probably right, but there's room for interpretation. Besides one more player won't hurt
 
Cortez91 said:
The regulations in place for a footballer applying for a work permit to move to a club in the United Kingdom remain frequently misunderstood and misinterpreted.

Various outlets, officials and supporters have quoted varied rules from the past, many of which remain relevant but have moved on from the assumed requirements for a footballer to be given the necessary immigration status.

Previously, a club would apply direct to the UK Government for a work permit, with the well-known requirement being that a player had to have played 75 per cent of his nation’s competitive games within the last two years to qualify.

Now, the relevant governing body must endorse any work permit application by a club before it is submitted to the UK Government, cutting down on the number of requests made directly to Government which are unlikely to succeed first time.

Who needs a work permit?

Any player who is over 16 years old and is not from the European Economic Area, which covers 32 countries aside from the UK requires a work permit to play for a British club.

A Commonwealth citizen with at least one grandparent who was born in the UK does not need to apply through the points based system. Such players will still require a work permit but go through a different process.

How to get a work permit

When a club signs a player who requires a work permit, they agree to sponsor the player to be in the UK, meaning they will provide the funds for his time in the country. A certificate of sponsorship is then produced by the club, which is then submitted to the relevant FA for them to consider an endorsement.

The Scottish FA’s rules on work permit endorsements follow the same guidelines as previously outlined by the UK Government. For the Scottish FA to give their approval, the player in question must have played 75 per cent of his nation’s competitive games – excluding friendlies – in the two years prior to the date of application.

Furthermore, the country the player is coming from must be in the top 70 of the FIFA rankings.

Failure to meet these requirements, unless it can be proven a player was unavailable for selection for a period of time, results in an automatic rejection of any application for an Scottish FA endorsement for a work permit certificate of sponsorship.

As of June 28, 2011, it costs an applicant £514 to apply by post for a work permit in the UK, or £850 in person to process the application on the same day. There is a reduction in cost for nationals from Croatia, Turkey or FYR Macedonia, with the same applications costing £459 and £765 respectively.

The appeals process

If an application is rejected, a club can then appeal to the governing body. An appeals panel will ultimately weigh up whether or not the player is, in their view, of the highest calibre and whether they would contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in the country.

That appeals panel typically sits within three to five working days of an appeal submission, although urgent hearings can be convened.

The panel is made up of three representatives from the relevant football bodies, typically officials from the league, the association and the player’s union. Up to three independent football experts, made up typically of former professionals, also sit on the panel.

An applicant club can object to an 'expert' being used on the panel up until 24 hours before the meeting is convened, sending their objections in writing to the relevant FA.

If an appeals panel does not find in favour of an applicant, no further application can be made until the subsequent season.

Status of immigration

The length of time a player can remain in the UK as a player depends on his grasp of the English language. There are two immigration statuses available to a player applying for a work permit: tier two and tier five.

Under tier two, a player can remain in the UK for an initial three years, with the possibility for an extension for a further two years. To qualify, the player must accrue 70 immigration points under the UK Government’s system. 50 are given for getting an FA endorsement, with 10 more given for being able to prove sufficient funding to remain in the country.

The final 10 are awarded on the basis of the player’s English. If the applicant comes from a predominantly English-speaking country, or has a degree from a course which was taught in English, the 10 points are subsequently awarded. Additionally, a player can sit an approved English language test upon their arrival in the UK to obtain tier two status.

Failing that, a player can apply for tier five status. Again, a certificate of sponsorship and proof of sponsorship is required but a visa is only valid for one year. However, the player can then sit an English language test within that year and apply to switch to tier two status.

The process simplified

A football association will endorse a certificate of sponsorship for a player if he has played 75 per cent of competitive games for a FIFA ranked top 70 nation over the past two years.

Failure to meet this requirement will see an application rejected, unless it can be proven a player was unavailable for selection due to injury.

A club may then appeal if the first application is rejected. An appeals panel will then convene to establish whether, in their view, the player's transfer would be of benefit to the game in the relevant country.

If they are in favour, the football association will then endorse the certificate, which then contributes the biggest part to the UK Government's criteria.


http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/193378-explained-uk-work-permit-rules-for-footballers/
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So if the nation slips out of the top 70 but the player is still **** hot, could we not sign him? For example, some of the countries outside the top 70 include Bolivia, Bulgaria, Austrailia (79th!), Jamaica or Belarus, all countries which have produced decent footballers over the years.

Incidentally, looking at that list, Ireland are currently ranked 66th (up from a record low 70th place for them), which is ****ing abysmal.
 
They can appeal if a player will improve the game.

On a side note: Sunderland are in for Kalou. Have we missed a trick here?
 
Foreign players move all the time to the PL despite not necessarily playing constantly for their national side, it'll be fine.

The other one Bruce was referring to was definitely Lenihan.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Foreign players move all the time to the PL despite not necessarily playing constantly for their national side, it'll be fine.

The other one Bruce was referring to was definitely Lenihan.
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I doubt it, Bruce was talking about first team signings. Lenihan is most likely for the reserves.
 
I would by my normal cynical self and say the second signing suggested was Lenihan, but I have a feeling it is someone like Diame.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Lenihan would be on the same level as Maguire I would think. And the facts all fit, Lenihan is the other one who is seemingly signing in the next few days.
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You could be right but he said one is very close (Hernandez), when both were due at the training ground later that day. Surely if it was Lenihan and Hernadez he would of said both are very close
 
Premier_Bound_Tiger said:
You could be right but he said one is very close (Hernandez), when both were due at the training ground later that day. Surely if it was Lenihan and Hernadez he would of said both are very close
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Do we actually know that Lenihan was at the ground yesterday?

I dunno, it just all seems to fit that he was talking about Lenihan and Hernandez, can't see a third coming in as well.
 
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