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Aaron Martin, Dan Harding, Dean Hammond, David Connolly

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Gordon Gekko, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Itchen North Matt

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    Richardson and De Ridder have only just come back from injuries, so I presume they were only fit enough for the bench.
     
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  2. JDub

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    Cork was absolutely ****e.
     
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  3. Chaplow's Shiny Head

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    Various people are all trying to select their own scape goats for last night and it smacks of panic no Lambert Lallana ,Chaplow and Fonte Richardson returning from injury all key men in our period of good form okay it does maybe show up problems with depth of reliable squad players but a year ago we were a league down from where we are now . Its fair to say last night was poor to say the least but it was pretty collective poor in my opinion. If you took the heart out of any team no matter how good you will miss key players . Adkins has tried to buy some quality strike back up but it seems so many things have to be right for deals to happen and he would know better than us the required personel . Indeed our hopes have been raised by some brilliant perfomances in the past and maybe there is now some leveling out taking place.But i maintain its no good pointing fingers all over the place and knocking individuals because most of the players have served us well on the whole . Iwould suggest getting down to ST marys on tuesday and trying to lift them with positivity so that as players return we have a right go towards April we may not ultimately go up but maybe we are not quite ready
     
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  4. Beef

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    Cork played on the wing again, that was probably why. Adkins has a thing for playing centre mids on the wing.
     
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  5. Saints Fan4Life

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    he doesnt have the bottle to leave any of them out
     
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  6. Qwerty

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    Or he doesn't have anyone else to play there instead?
     
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  7. Saints Fan4Life

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    De Ridder, Holmes, Butterfield (not match fit though, admittedley), Falque
     
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  8. TBD

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    Cork was apparently the MOM against forest on the wing, its easy to criticise managent decisions after the game much harder to make the right ones before. Nige will be hurting at the moment and that will results in new ideas and plans which hopefully should see us return to early season form.
     
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  9. Beef

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    I said after the game no one should see the Forest game as we are back. Forest are beyond awful even my grandad could beat them and he's dead.
     
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  10. Saintmagic

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    Agree with most of the points on here regarding the performance. Only person I thought played remotely well was Schneiderlin, Fox was useless but that could be down to Leicesters pressing in that when he did try and play the ball to midfield they lost it pretty quickly, so he resorted to the long ball and I think between tham Guly and Connolly won one header which went to a Saint.

    It pretty much sums up my general feeling about Saints this season, we have a good first eleven who could challenge for promotion if they played every game, but the backups in the majority of positions are midtable Championship players at best so before the window is out I would like to see us bring in at least 2 new faces as we need a squad to get promoted and not just a good first eleven
     
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  11. North Hants Saint

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    Everybody was poor last night. Harding was extremely poor for Nugent's goal, I said as soon as he picked the ball up not to let him inside on his right foot.

    I think the team underestimated them too, and the 2nd goal killed the game off completely. The referee may as well have blown the whistle there and then.
     
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  12. Gordon Gekko

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    De Ridder isn't good enough to start, he shouldn't really be on the bench in all honesty, but we have no other option really. Yes he runs a lot, but that's it. He constantly slows our momentum up by trying to beat too many men, can't see a pass, can't make a pass, can't cross and his shooting is pretty abysmal as well. As stated in another thread, he is partly a reason as to why the European scout was sacked.
     
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  13. Gordon Gekko

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    Fox was constantly under pressure. Mostly down to own team mates. The two culprits most at fault for putting team mates under pressure were Martin and Hammond, too many weak passes into men with opponents closing down.
     
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  14. Itchen North Matt

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    Falque played on the left and De Ridder probably wasn't fully match fit after just coming back from injury. I'm willing to bet that Holmes isn't that fit either having played very little recently. De Ridder and Holmes made very little impact when they came on and I'm not convinced they'd have done any better had they started.

    Let's just use Millwall to get Richardson and De Ridder match fit, get the gameplan right with Lambert back in and hope that other injuries aren't too bad.
     
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  15. JDub

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    Bit harsh I think.
     
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  16. Dan

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    Sadly I don't know that it is. I think it's too early to write him off but from all I've seen of him so far, he matches that description.
     
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  17. JDub

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    IMO he was our best player yesterday, bar Hooiveld obviously. Ajax wouldn't have been interested for no reason.
     
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  18. Gordon Gekko

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    My observations. This describes him well. Others I know (involved in the game) have said the same thing. 'Flatter's to deceive'. Lots of running around in circle's, stepovers... but not going anywhere, not creating anything and not doing anything with the ball.
     
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  19. TBD

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    Wow short memory guys De ridder was superb in the two games he started over xmas before he got injured he always looks dangerous just abit inconsistent sometimes without an end product which is like basically every other winger to have ever played the game.
     
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  20. Gordon Gekko

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    No he wasn't. He was pretty terrible, you just got the impression he was good because he ran around a lot. End product is everything. He created one goal for Guly, but all other crosses ended up behind the goal. That just isn't good enough. Add to that he cost us 3 points against Blackpool in the dying seconds because of poor delivery and countless other times he's produced nothing. He just isn't good enough, he has no composure.
     
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