May I ask, what qualifies you to make such a sweeping statement? Genuine question. Do you never set foot in Hull, then?
That's a silly comment as it's like saying don't you step foot anywhere. As it happens I never go into Hull for anything other than to watch Hull City play. I receive more free services from York City Council than Hull using that comment as a guide, equally the people of Hull obviously receive free services from the East Riding each time they go beyond the City boundary
Nothing, I simply cannot think of any service I receive provided by ERYC that could be better provided by HCC
Yes, but we're not insisting on remaining "separate" or insisting we want nothing to do with the rest of the East Riding. By the way, Hull City Council paid for that big stadium that Hull City play in.
I don't think a boundary change would have any effect on property prices at all and I think that if you get your post addressed to North Ferriby, East Yorkshire, it will arrive without issue. More annoying is the fact that DVLA, insurance companies and several other agencies still insist on addressing post to North Humberside. Unless it's something I know I definitely need, I mark such post 'not known at this address' and stick it back in the post. Hull suffers as a result of it's restricted boundaries, an issue that doesn't apply to most other major cities in England and that really should be a addressed, it will benefit the East Riding as much as it benefits Hull. I realise that Hull City Council have an appalling record and is generally run by incompetent clowns, so there is a genuine concern about the effect it might have on services and schools etc, but I think it's unlikely to be a significant effect and at least Councillors from places where people actually bother to vote will get to come to the party.
Not according to DMD, who in fact prefers HCC! Other councils successfully manage to balance urban and rural areas. I don't see why a unified council couldn't achieve the same. Increased buying power, reduction in job role duplication. I can only see benefits - plus a good opportunity to get rid of all the dead wood, what's not to like?
I cannot see a unified council ever happening, the only possibilities might be the boundary expansion, however I do think it would be a one sided benefit & can see why those living in Hull might want it, but equally I can see why those in Kirkella, willerby, cottingham, ferriby, brough etc would be largely against & the wider East Riding would certainly want nothing to do with Hull as we have our administrative capital in Beverley
But it's not being subsidised by the council, it's a result of a badly managed agreement made by an inept HCC in the first case, another reason to want nothing to do with them
I don't think a unified single council will happen either. I think the boundary expansion will happen, to encompass the built-up areas in the Hull suburbs. I'm not sure how you consider that a one-sided benefit though, but hey ho.
Presumably avoiding local roads, footpaths and the KC Stadium itself and never on a night when street lights are lit. Also, if Hull didn't exist, where's your next centre to place the Hospital and other services?
Hardly free services provided to the East Riding by HCC though are they ? If you drive into the ERYC then they are giving you them free too. I've never needed a hospital in Hull (thankfully) and can get to it on roads provided by the highways agency not HCC. The hospital is funded by me through my taxes & my taxes also pay the rates etc paid to HCC for the land they are on, so I guess I'm subsidising HCC as I don't use those services. I can actually count on one hand the number of times I have been into Hull in the last 5 years, other than to watch City
I'll admit to being rather ingnorant to the facts in this, but my fear as a Hull resident is that this is just a ploy to make Hull's services, education for example, look better without actually doing anything to improve them. On the other hand, I can see the benefits to shared services, such as refuse collection and winter gritting, that residents of both areas could recieve. Maybe I should look into it a bit more!
I can see why you have such an opinion when it's fed by such a narrow and incomplete set of information.
Hospitals are a bit of a red herring, East Riding residents already contribute to Hull NHS services, along with the Hull police, fire and ambulance services.
They do, but the hospital wouldn't be in such a convenient place if Hull didn't exist. Also, some of the tables Hull scored low on were compiled with data based on Hospital admissions, many of which were people from the East Riding. There's also differing contributions to the Police and Fire Authorities from the Authorities, as well as a somewhat disproportionate allocation of resources.
The irony (or indeed hypocrisy) in all of this debate is that many of those who live in the villages/towns bordering Hull derive their income and wealth from plying their trade within the Hull City boundary.
