what??? I have on numerous occassions said I dont accept god meaning creator, and simply use it as it is what most people use god and creator are simply different. Eg the likes of Thor were gods but not creators, similar with other gods in greek mythology etc As far as I am concerned you went from not entertaining the concept of a creator to acknowledging it, simples this whole mod thing has been bad for you, you have actually started believing you are good at discussing/debating
dont get me wrong he is a likeable enough bloke however he seems to be getting ideas beyond his station IMHO and I do feel he is trying too hard to be seen as a cool and hip mod, reminds me of dads trying to be hip and he seems to be jumping on certain bandwagons, his originality is no longer there Just trying to help him and keep him honest
If there was a poll on here, asking who was most credible, me or you, I think we both know the answer. Virtually everyone dismisses you as a crackpot. They can't all be wrong.
doesnt prove a thing old boy, people believed the world is flat and all that fact is you bought up issues from a 'creationism' thread on something totally different and FYI i get people disagreeing with me on religion that is true, yet suprisingly a lot of people agree with most of my other points check it out if you want We cant compare this with you as i have yet to see anything from you that has been interesting
Insults so far: Not good at debating Not interesting Like an unhip dad Bandwagon jumper Anyone would think you were trying to wind me up Fan. As for trying to fit in, I'm not the one who's started to use Scottish slang like baws, beeling and gaping since I started to come on here
Thems my opinions JJS, honest ones. sorry you see them as insults I dont use that terminology to fit in and as you know english isnt my first language so I use the language of those I communicate with fitting in would be for example if I became athiest or argued about it being the right way because evryone else does oh and using other people assertions incorrectly, you know when I answer you directly but you say I am avoiding
Thems my opinions JJS, honest ones. sorry you see them as insults Funny how these honest opinions only come out when I derided your debating skills. I knew you think you're some kind of debating master Fan, but I didn't realise I'd touched such a sensitive nerve. I dont use that terminology to fit in and as you know english isnt my first language so I use the language of those I communicate with fitting in would be for example if I became athiest or argued about it being the right way because evryone else does Why don't you just use Stoke slang then? oh and using other people assertions incorrectly, you know when I answer you directly but you say I am avoiding What are you on about? Considering you fancy yourself as such a wit, you're about as articulate as a jabberring baboon at times.
you do try JJS, however you must know by now I never get riled. You consistently try and assert a sense of mastery using words like win, you wont get one over me etc etc. Seems you have the illusions of debating mastery etc. I personally dont see it as debating with you tbh. As mentioned its entertainment for me I dont see any victories or defeats. I just address whats put in front of me and if I can get somebody to rethink a viewpoint etc all good. An example would be the possibility of a creator from someone who professed to be a non believer You would be suprised how much stokie slang is similar to scottish slang, certainly in my experience. However if talking to mainly scots why use an alien form of slang anyway? I often use Liverpool slang (again similarities to stoke) when in liverpool. I lived in merseyside for a few years. Incidentally I have spent time in scotland too notably glasgow and dundee Its ok you can ask I dont mind clarifying. Basically what I was saying is that you jump on other bandwagons (other people assertions), the example being accusations of avoiding questions although I have given direct responses to you. Thats just lazy IMO You wont get anywhere in life adopting other people styles, you need to forge your own identity.
Quote 1: (1) That's all very true, but it doesn't mean anything. Carbon monoxide only needs to be at 0.16% of the atmosphere to be fatal to humans. (2) Water vapour doesn't make up 95% of greenhouse gases - what was your source? Real figures are here on page 7 (as of 1997 - if you find more up-to-date figures from peer reviewed papers then please post): http://web.archive.org/web/20060330013311/http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring04/atmo451b/pdf/RadiationBudget.pdf. Your point isn't really a point anyway. CO2 is planet killing at the right level though; similarly, we'd all be ****ed if there wasn't any. (3) 3.4% might seem like very little (source for this figure?) but if there was equilibrium before and something comes along that adds 3.4% to it then it upsets the balance. Does the 3.4% take into account the rate of deforestation (ie removing a large carbon sink)? (4) Would you only believe in it if there was no possible way of making money from it? Quote 2: (1) I dispute the stats unless you can provide the peer reviewed literature from which you got them and I dispute the conclusions you've reached from the stats unless you can find the peer reviewed literature that backs up your assertions. (2) Can you provide reasons as to why Mars and Neptune are warming, if indeed they are? What do you know about the natural cycles of these planets? (3) Why should a rise in CO2 (by about 25% in the last 200 years) be negligible? (4) 'Warming precedes CO2 rises' - plenty of reading here: http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm (5) And? Quote 3: What cycles would these be, and what evidence do we have that they are happening now? Also, nobody believes we are the ONLY cause, because to suggest the Sun has no effect would be stupid.
It wasn't that long ago that global cooling was a popular theory (at a time when greenhouse gas emissions were higher than they are now)
I don't have a style Fan.I am who I am. I certainly don't feel the need to create a fake life for myself to impress people online.
oh dear it seems you are mad. From memory I have never mentioned 'winning' or 'beating' you in an argument, yet it seems to border on obsession with yourself. You have mentioned it many times. sometimes by saying things 'you wont win this one fan'. I assure you there is no prize in this but if it helps ok you win As for lying, this is not something I do and I have held my hand up (and been praised for it) for admitting when I am wrong. As for my false life, I can assure you NOTHING i have said is untrue. You can go back to my very early posts and you will see a consistency in everything I have said. I lived in Southport, I have been to dundee. I have been to Glasgow a few times, including looking at the Easterhouse estate as part of my uni days ( went to a place called cleopatra's at the time). Obviously wasnt practicing at thetime hence in a night club. If you look up edge hill college in ormskirk you will see why I lived in southport, it was a teaching college I DID teach for a bit, one of mys tudents was sara Ibrahimi the lass from the Natwest ads (google her) I was NEVER a councillor, I worked for mainly stoke council but others too My kids are genuine. I have 6. 7th on way (its a lad by the way confirmed by scan). I have never claimed they are geniuses but they are very clever and my eldest has done some GCSES already (including the frnch one which the school lost again i did a thread on it) I have been doing a variety of fighting arts since I was very young, love them, including the philosophy and have fought in competitions As for your style your little outburst is a very good example of what I was attempting to say. All your little points have been said by a few others on here and you have latched on. Its a shame as until you started to 'discuss' (and i use the term loosely) you made your own decisions about me and they were in truth more accurate Anything else you want clarifying?
Boffo, as much as I respect the effort you put into your response, I'm afraid you've wasted your time... thefuckwitwithamakebelievelife doesn't answer any posts where he knows he's wrong, he'll just avoid it as much as possible and make up stuff to suit his argument. Any attempts made by yourself to get any form of logical answer out of him will drive you mad, so give up now, it's futile
I wish Global warming would hurry up, the bastards promise you it, make you pay taxes for it but it hasn't ****ing arrived yet, i'm freezing here fo'****'sake
