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A premature end of season squad shakedown...

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by CannockQPR, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Great OP, thanks.

    The line of those with 2 year contracts is impressive and forms the backbone of a team that might have a half chance at the bottom of the PL. Alternatively it should do well enough for top six again next season in the SBC.
     
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  2. awjm

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    Positive thinking, Batman!
     
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  3. CannockQPR

    CannockQPR Active Member

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    A few points of clarification

    Firstly SWP, I thought he came on a 3 year contract in 2011, so unless some insane bastard has extended his contract his time is up is up at the end of the season. To those of you saying he has another year left, for the love of god say this is not so.. please...

    On the subject of Kranjcar - i don't think he can stay another season on loan, he has two years left on his contract with Kyiv and his valuation would be proper money which i don't think we would stretch to although i would like him to stay at the right price.

    Dunne - point here is no matter how crocked/old he is, he has one year left and its not like we could sell him so we may as well get what we can out of him next season even if its sporadic appearances, although if we do go up it not going to be pretty watching him trying to keep up with Theo Walcott...

    And as for the sling em all out and start again plan, Peter you don't mean it well not quite all of them anyway.
     
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  4. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat Well-Known Member

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    First and foremost, a great OP and thread

    Here's my crack at it;

    Under contract

    Dunne - Signed a 1 year extension anyway, KEEP
    Henry - KEEP for 1 year
    Barton - KEEP
    Mbia - SELL
    Taarabt - SELL
    Granero - SELL
    Remy - SELL
    Diakite - SELL
    Cesar - SELL
    Austin - KEEP
    Onouha - KEEP
    Suk Young - KEEP
    Simpson - KEEP
    M.Phillips - KEEP
    Hoillet - KEEP

    Out of contract

    Green - Release
    Hill - Release
    Hughes - KEEP for 1 year
    Traore - KEEP
    L.Young - Release
    Jenas - Release
    Faurlin - KEEP
    O'Neill - Release
    Ephraim - Release
    Benayoun - Release
    AJ - Release
    Zamora - Release
    Park JS - Release

    Loan Players

    Ravel Morrison - Sign if possible
    Carroll - Send back
    Keane - Send back
    Krancjar - Send back
    BAE - Send back
    Doyle - Sign (but only on reduced wages)
     
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  5. Belfasthoop

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    This.
     
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  6. BlindFaith

    BlindFaith Well-Known Member

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    Definitely depends what league we're in.

    Certainly wouldn't pay £60k a week or whatever it is to keep Green so would have to drop his salary demands alongside quite a few others.
     
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  7. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    You don't feel like giving many of them another chance under better tactics and selection?
     
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  8. DT Footspa

    DT Footspa Well-Known Member

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    We get up you will all see a shake up ... This squad has been put together to get back up ... expect a new one if we do
     
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  9. QPAAAAAGH

    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    You're having a laugh.
     
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  10. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat Well-Known Member

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    No, Hughes has been a Premier League CB for the vast majority of his career and is a better defender than Clint Hill.

    Although he's been a great servant, enough is enough with respect to him starting every game. I would almost certainly sign a younger CB to partner Onouha long term, with Donaldson getting some experience as well.
     
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  11. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat Well-Known Member

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    It's tough and like many have said it's dependent on what league we're playing in next season. I would rather bring in younger, hungrier players with points to prove.
     
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  12. Flyer

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    Green - go, never makes any saves
    Hill - Keep
    Hughes - Go
    Traore - go, not because of his play but because of injuries
    Young - Go
    Jenas - go
    Faurlin - Keep on a payp deal
    O'neil - Go
    Ephraim - Go
    Wright-Phillips - Go
    Benayoun - go
    Johnson - Go
    Zamora - Go
    Park - Go
    Murphy - go

    Dunne - go
    Henry - Go
    Barton - Keep
    Mbia - Go

    That makes 16 outs not including Remy and taarabt which is a massive job.
    TF has his biggest decision so far at QPR in appointing a new manager.
     
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  13. Flyer

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    The official site says he's out of contract this summer.
     
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  14. Rodney

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    My views:

    Under contract
    Dunne - KEEP: his legs seem to have gone but he'd be useful cover.
    Henry - KEEP: useful guy to have in the squad
    Barton - KEEP: was heading for my POTY vote earlier in the season, gone off a bit since.
    Mbia - SELL: he didn't work out for us last time round and, in any case, he wouldn't want to play for us again
    Taarabt - SELL (sadly): he wouldn't want to play for us again
    Granero - SELL: huge disappointment
    Remy - SELL (sadly): cash in, he wouldn't want to play for us again
    Diakite - SELL: unfulfilled talent who can't even get in Watford's team
    Cesar - SELL: too expensive and he lost interest a long time ago
    Austin - KEEP
    Onouha - KEEP: could be our first choice centre back for a few years
    Suk Young - KEEP
    Simpson - KEEP: been very solid
    M.Phillips - KEEP: looked very exciting once he got fit and until he got injured
    Hoillet - KEEP, always looks a threat even if end product often disappointing

    Out of contract

    Green - KEEP: one or two blemishes but mostly been good for us
    Hill - KEEP: useful squad player who, yet again, might get more games than we predict
    Hughes - KEEP for squad
    Traore - KEEP: has looked good on a number of occasions and was deservedly POTM a little while back
    L.Young - Release
    Jenas - Release: looked decent more recently but too injury prone.
    Faurlin - KEEP
    O'Neill - Release
    Ephraim - Release
    Benayoun - KEEP if wages sensible: he's improved a lot since he first arrived (faint praise?)
    AJ - Release: works hard but never going to score a goal, especially if he's on the treatment table
    Zamora - Release: recent performances don't really make up for his earlier disinterest.
    Park JS - Release: has never done anything for us.

    Loan Players

    Ravel Morrison - Sign if possible
    Carroll - KEEP: appears less immediately gifted than Harry suggested but could still come good
    Keane - Send back: Wigan didn't keep him; now we know why
    Krancjar - KEEP if fee/wages sensible: fat bloke who adds some much needed creativity but he needs to get fit
    BAE - Send back: too casual, wrong attitude
    Doyle - Sign (but only on reduced wages)
     
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  15. CannockQPR

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    Alright Flyer

    Barton - Keep????

    Are you going to change your sig then?

    Or is this a morality v football dilemma...
     
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  16. QPAAAAAGH

    QPAAAAAGH Well-Known Member

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    With the emphasis on 'has been' I assume.

    Clint Hill has been a stalwart and top defender for QPR for four seasons, was the lynch pin of the back line that broke the club record for clean sheets in the current season, shows no sign of falling standards and and if there is any justice should receive POTY. Obviously it's the right time to ditch him and instead keep yet another over the hill 'Premier League' player looking for a retirement bonus.
     
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  17. Flyer

    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    He's under contract so I didn't have to make a decision.

    It is a dilemma, he's a decent player but massively overpaid, he'd have to accept 20k a week to be in the keep category. Even then I wouldn't want him but think it would be best for the club.
     
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  18. seagullhoop

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    Really?? Oh come on... this is just plain wrong - sometimes I agree with you and others not - but this is an utterly ludicrous statement - I really think you should reconsider.
     
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  19. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat Well-Known Member

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    He shows signs of declining ability every season he gets older. He was protected earlier on this season by a defensive midfield at the best of times which can make any defender look better than what they are. His performance against Bournemouth summarised he's not going to get any better.

    I don't disagree with the fact he's been a great servant to this club, and I certainly wouldn't oppose him being a coach here but his time on the playing field is done. If we were to go up to the Prem Hughes is a much better choice for a squad place.
     
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  20. CannockQPR

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    So its 'Barton Out! (when his contract expires unless he agrees to lower wages and then he can stay for the good of the club but i still don't like him)'

    maybe that is a little bit too long for your signature...

    Are we all in agreement yet that the SWP saga finally reaches it long and sorry end at the end of this season? I'm still panicking as to why the others think he still has a year to go.

    What if they are right <yikes>
     
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