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A Night For Us All To Be Very Proud

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Red Hadron Collider, Feb 22, 2013.

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  1. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Pipe down Gez!

    Chesterfield is in Derbyshire...
     
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  2. Foredeckdave

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    Last night I really wished that I had been at the game. For the first time for a long time I really saw a Liverpool team playing with heart - not just for brief patches but throughout the match. So I for one say thank you what you did last night was to rekindle the band in which heart and hope unites the players with the fans. Last night I watched OUR players doing everything and more that I would WANTED to have done to try and win the match. WE didn't - that's football and that's life but we did do a hell of a lot more - those players re-found LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB.

    So in answer to BBF. I'm not celebrating failure, I'm celebrating something far more vital which if nurtured, will bring us greater success than technical ability on its own ever will. I'm celebrating the end of detachment (them and us). Where this takes us I don't know.
     
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  3. Only playing pal <laugh>

    And I'm not from Chesterfield!
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Exactly Dave. I wish to God I'd been there as well. keep that spirit going and it will take us where we want to go <ok>
     
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  5. DirtyFrank

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    You're right Dave.

    That was the first match in a long time I really enjoyed watching! I mean I've watched us win this year obviously but there was always a lingering doubt about the commitment of some of the players on the pitch. It was good to see players finally getting that they have to play up to what the shirt represents rather than believing they are something merely because they put the shirt on.

    Interesting after listening to the Gerrard interview before the match. It was almost challenging his teammates rather than the usual "we'll get better" fluff piece thats been handed out too much this season. it seems in this one match at least they answered his challenge.

    New challenge: do it every week.
     
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  6. Zingy

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    Time to get the tissues out for the older guys lads. <laugh>
     
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  7. Tobes

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    You're stark staring mad.
     
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  8. DirtyFrank

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    LOL; You have to be a little mad to follow a football team Tobes.

    I'm not sure I share the belief in the first sentence you highlighted but I do share the second. That was the first time in a long time both the fans and players seemed engaged together. If any of those players that played or were present last night (remember for some it was their first experience of a "proper" European night at Anfield) are satisifed in putting out displays of effort that mean a regression by the fans to the lacklustre atmosphere we've witnessed recently, then they should be shown the door. The rest should be motivated to continue to get that kind of support because on a personal level it must feel bloody good to have 40K singing you on like that. I'd want to repeat it as often as possible!
     
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  9. Lucaaas

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    It makes perfect sense to me. What I believe he is saying, in a rather cheesy way I admit, is that Liverpool, based on last night, have a team that the fans can identify with and support fully, and that's really important. When the likes of Konchesky, Hodgson, Hicks and Gillett were at the club, the fans couldn't identify with the club itself and therefore the support for the team wasn't as vocal or as passionate as it could've been.
     
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  10. Foredeckdave

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    Then you are totally ignorant of the psychology of both small and large groups and the basics of culture. I'd rather be mad than totally clueless.
     
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  11. One of the lads

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    There it is.

    Psychology, sports marketing, real estate, the Dutch, whatever next?! <cool>
     
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  12. Tobes

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    I got what he meant, I just thought the way he put it was RAWK'esque in it's delivery & therefore rather over blown.

    Individual games can prove to be pivotal moments in a teams history, no doubt about that, so maybe last night was one of those very moments for your club - time will tell. If you'd have won the tie, I'd have said it stood a better chance of that tbh.

    But you know what football's like, one week a hero, the next week useless. It seems to be a theme of Rodgers short reign so far.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    ....or alternatively, I could just think that you're a moon barking lunatic Dave :)
     
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  14. Foredeckdave

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    Now I can bring forth practical and theoretical evidence to support my contention. Therefore unless you can do the same to support your 'diagnosis' then I suggest you stop making a bigger idiot of yourself.
     
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  15. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I know this is going to sound weird, but I feel the opposite way to this, for reasons I can't really encapsulate. We shall see, but whilst still disappointed last night, I still had a smile on my face <ok>
     
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    Seems like he's got the psychology aspect nailed. Short term mood swings and overreaction to insignificant events are a common feature of many psychological disorders.

    Or, to put it another way, mad people are more prone to overreact to the slightest possible stimulus.

    Excellent evidence based diagnosis Tobes <ok>
     
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  17. Foredeckdave

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    And that from a self-confessed dementia sufferer!
     
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  18. Tobes

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    Really Dave? So you can provide evidence of exactly how the players 're-found' Liverpool FC & how exactly 'detachment' was offiicially ended last night?

    Great stuff, can't wait to read it mate <pullsupchair&openspopcornsmiley>
     
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  19. Foredeckdave

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    Before we even start to consider the writings of Smirchic, Shein, Hofstede, et al I would suggest that you find a basic primer on Organisational or Corporate Culture (even the IOD will be able to help you there). After that we can perhaps begin our dialogue by looking at the effects of myths, symbols and tales followed by understanding of identities. Let me know when you believe that you are ready.
     
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  20. BringBackfootie

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    Calling a LFC supporter a glory hunter<laugh>


    I never slated the team, I am just saying, you can run around trying your heart out all day and still be cr@p. You can admire the effort put in, passion, why cos we do not see nowhere near enough over a season so a performance like this stands out, why should it, is earning wads and wearing the shirt and being admired by millions of fans not enough to get into the frame of mind week in week out and play your balls off.

    The bar has dropped indeed.


    @Swarbs

    I'm not being harsh, it was what it was and we made the most of it with what we had but lets call a spade a spade and not a shovel
     
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