I think it's a terrible Idea and agree about the confusion. I think both parties should be free to feint as much as they like. Only way to avoid gray areas imo.
No way. A keeper is trying to stop the attacker scoring. Cannot move from his line but can move anywhere along it. If a player feints a shot he is trying to gain advantage. I was a keeper as a kid so that might be why I think like this!!
As far as I can see both players are trying to make the other make the wrong choice. I think it's unfair to only allow one player to do that. I think it hands an unfair advantage to the goalkeeper.
Aye but what more advantage does the forward need than being 12 yards from goal with a goalkeeper not allowed to narrow the angle? We will never agree on this one though!! I see it in a similar vein to the feigned free kick when the person standing over the free kick wants the opposition booking for encroachment when he fakes kicking the ball! Guess being a keeper as a kid and a defender as a late teenager made me think that way! If I'd been a centre forward I'd probably have agreed totally with you!!
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It's a penalty. The defending team is being punished, clue is in the name. Restricting what the takers can do but allowing the Goalkeeper more leeway doesn't make sense on any level to me. Bonkers in fact. If the goalkeeper can faint, allowing the taker to faint too is just keeping the scales balanced imo. Why should the party being punished be allowed to use extra tactics to force a mistake? While the taker who's rightly got the advantage of the kick , be restricted in what he can do to force a mistake? Is it not enough for you that Keepers get away with stepping off the line every penalty that you want to allow then extra advantage. Some punishment. Makes penalties pretty pointless if it's going to be manipulated so the punished party is gaining more advantage. We'll never agree on this.
Absolutely!! No chance - but, like I say, I hate the attackers standing over a free-kick and feigning to kick the ball expecting the wall to be punished for moving - that, to me, is the same principle!!
I wouldn't say it's the same principle. A free kick situation is very different to a penalty. Not even given a thought to freekicks tbh(loads of things irritate me with them) as there's so many factors and not really relevant to the penalty rule change for me.
Feinting imo, is part of the skill of a penalty, if you can give a keeper the eyes and sit him on his arse before you even kick the ball, then so ****? Why is the attacker being fingered for what is simply out-witting the goal keeper? Poor goal keeper, made to look a clown, boo-hoo, go home and cry in your £50m house.
Again I'll never agree but maybe it's the goalkeepers/defenders union in me that does it! To the same point - as a keeper is not allowed to move off his line until a penalty is kicked, what if the attacker feints to kick, the keeper advances then saves the penalty? It should be re-taken according to the law but the keepers movements may only be due to the feint!! Too many grey areas (and, to be fair, if it was left exactly as it was who would've cared!)
Keepers are given way too much protection. If they're not strong in catching, they're given free kicks, bunch of pussies. If he comes off his line because HE has pre-empted where the ball would be going then it's his own fault if he saves it and it has to be taken again. Anyway, the rule has been changed, for the worse, it's like the EU are making the football laws nowadays... there'll be a refugee quota for each 25 man squad soon.
See now that I completely agree with! Obviously there are limits (the way Stoke used to do it and the way West Brom do it now - Tony Pulis I guess!) where a player would stand on the keeper or pull the keeper! One rule they haven't changed which they should have is the shirt tugging at free-kicks/corners etc. in the box. It should be a penalty every time without fail but they seem to turn a blind eye!
Every team does it that's why, some more than others, serial offenders such as Huth, Shawcross, Skrtel should be banned retrospectively.
Agree about the grey areas as to many regulations take away commonsense approach. What the ref sees as commonsense from pitchside officiating is not always same as the fans view - so it's now over regulation to try and avoid any confusion. In my opinion it will still result in as many. Think use of technology is the way forward to reduce contentious decision on the big calls ..... also have ref/ex-refs on TV panels -MAY reduce confusion further
These players who continuously dive/drop like flies at the slightest touch get on my wick, that should have been dealt with. Also shielding the ball out of play for a goal kick should be stopped.
The three things that should have been changed have been ignored 1. Surely something has to be done about obstructing and shirt tugging in the penalty area before a free kick or corner, it's becoming ridiculous now. 2. The Offside rule, why not simplify it, all this not interfering with play is nonsense, if your not interfering with play then you shouldn't be on the pitch. 3. Diving, we have to stamp this out of our game and it would be easily stopped.. If any teams players are booked or sent off for diving more than 3 times in any season the club should be docked points, it's the only thing they understand, fining them is no good, money doesn't mean a thing to them.
Getting messy round here. Surely everybody is up to date with the rule changes by now? Time to drop it from the top? maybe
obstruction is a indirect free kick, how many of those in a match given for obstruction. I believe it is not obstruction if the player is within playing distance of the ball (perhaps that is the grey area because when he is shepherding the ball is he within playing distance? the rule I would like to see tightening up is the goalkeeper moving before the kick sometimes they are nearly on the six yard line.
But, to 'shepherd the ball', would mean the attacking player staying in a straight line behind the defender and not trying to get around him. Obviously the attacking player isn't going to do that and will look to go around the defending player to get to the ball. Now, as soon as that defending player moves his body to stop the attacking player getting around him and to the ball, then that is obstruction as far as I'm concerned.
