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A Land Fit For Heroes?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Ciaran, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    **** off Tramp.
     
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  2. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, but not as many as Welsh.

    People like me? Fathers and husbands that work for insurance brokers and have never even set foot on Irish soil? <laugh>

    Go to bed you pisshead.
     
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  3. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    "An Gorta Mor" is how it is referred to in Irish. the Great Hunger.
     
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  4. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    More food was exported out of Ireland by Britain than was needed to feed the starving.

    It meant my family moved from south Derry to Belfast.

    Every cloud...
     
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  5. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Famine/hunger - what's the difference?
     
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  6. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Well it seems to have stuck <ok>
     
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  7. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Native speakers
    approx 133,000 native within Ireland, smaller numbers living abroad (2011)[1]
    L2:
    1.77 million (native + L2) in the Republic
    64,916 in Northern Ireland[2]
    30,000 in the United States
    7,500 in Canada
    1,895 in Australia[3]


    Native speakers 721,700 total speakers (2011)
    &#8212; Wales: 562,000 speakers, 19.0% of the population of Wales,[1] with 12% of the population (317,000) considering themselves fluent in Welsh[2]
    &#8212; England: 150,000[3]
    &#8212; Chubut Province, Argentina: 5,000[4]
    &#8212; United States: 2,500[5]
    &#8212; Canada: 2,200[6]
    &#8212; New Zealand: 1,077[7]
     
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  8. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Famine means there was a lack of food.

    Hunger means you need food.
     
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  9. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    :emoticon-0159-musicFarewell to Bellaghy:emoticon-0159-music

    Yeah, and why Derry city ended up having loads of Donegal names around the place. To this day there are still loads of folk here who profess a greater affinity wit Donegal/Inishowen than County Derry.
     
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  10. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Yes. Unintentional as it is you still have no idea of the Irish mindset in regards the Anglos

    I will stay up as I please, I worked the 12th for a guy and got today and tomorrow off
    Im here for a while and on the sauce tomorrow beforow watching Cville hump the Hoops :)
     
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  11. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Everybody needs food :confused:
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    An you'll stay hungry if you can't get it.

    Famine means there is none for you to have. That was never the case here.
     
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  13. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    So there's a lot of hatred in Ireland for normal English blokes who earn a living for their family (same as many Irishmen I imagine)?
     
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  14. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    See Ciaran's post I've quoted above <ok>
     
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  15. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    What?
     
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  16. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think that represents an attitude towards a people, rather that you don't appear to understand Ciaran's vision of the national psyche.

    I have an English accent, I've never gotten any grief here ever. I had a friend staying from England on the day the Saville Inquiry was released. I asked him not to wear his "help for heroes" lance Armstrong wristband thing, just in case anything would happen. The British Army wouldn't be so popular that day. He was happy to agree. My mate doesn't particularly give a **** about politics so I left him in the pub. Ten minutes later he wanted to come and see it all as everyone seemed to be buzzing. We stayed out all day and got hammered. His comment was that he couldn't believe that nobody said a cross word to him and that people were so positive to him.

    In my opinion that reflects the psyche of the nation. In every single family there is someone with an English accent, maybe someone who roots for England ahead of Ireland. But people are smart enough not to blame the sins of a government on the people.
     
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  17. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    I said a lot of Irish resent the English, Rebel said he didn't know any who did. I used your quote as an example.
     
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  18. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Not really a hatred for people, just the general attitude of indifference to the almost perpetual ****storm left behind from British colonial involvement in the island.
    A "why should we care" attitude while the island still struggles to deal with the legacy as mostly England still reaps the resonant economic benefits of their previous colonial activities.
     
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  19. Jip Jaap Stam

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    Maybe it's more in the north then (or the nationalist parts thereof).
     
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  20. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, because things are really booming over here at the moment <doh>

    What do you want/expect from us? An apology or sympathy from normal people who have next to no control over British foreign policy today, let alone our colonial exploits long before our time?
     
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