A dreadful week

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i'd take Pulis if it means survival for sure, he'd certainly sort out our leaky defence.

I genuinely wouldn't even if it was 100% secured. Even with european football, cup final etc. stoke fans still hated him and his style. Not sure we can understand the monotony of it until we endure the time wasting fouling week in week out. There's more to life than the premier league and that is not worth it.
 
Isn't that just a case of moving the goalpoasts though? We stayed up comfortably by finishing 11th last season which was a hell of an achievement but there were still a lot of people (I might be wrong here but I think you might have been of them Thai?) slating the manager because of the style of play. But now at the prospect of it being another manager in charge you are happy to accept ugly football as long as the results come with it.

The more stuff I read from the Hootun out brigade the more I am convinced that he's on a hiding to nothing and can do no right in some people's eyes who have clearly made up their minds a long time ago. This may be because he's not Lambert, it may be because he always praises the opposition in post-match interviews, it may be for some other reason but whatever I personally find it a shame

I was indeed one them, and have been critical of CH since February. We were awful for 5 months at the end of last season, and got a break with the last 2 games of the season to leapfrog the pack. That effectively shows that 11th place was not actually a great achievement, as we were starring at the possibility of going down in mid-April.

The style has changed recently, but results are still not forthcoming, which then leaves few choices. More of the same or revert back to playing to survive. I don't mind who is in charge, if we are picking up 3 points at home, against the majority of opponents outside the top 6.
 
I genuinely wouldn't even if it was 100% secured. Even with european football, cup final etc. stoke fans still hated him and his style. Not sure we can understand the monotony of it until we endure the time wasting fouling week in week out. There's more to life than the premier league and that is not worth it.
they only hated pulis at the end, after being in the premier league for what 5 seasons. even then he tried to change their style, last season, and it didn't work.
 
they only hated pulis at the end, after being in the premier league for what 5 seasons. even then he tried to change their style, last season, and it didn't work.

I'd have to disagree, attendances were dwindling way before then, highlighted by their european games not even selling out. There was massive out cry from lots of fans when pulls broke the stoke wage structure for peter crouch and only the pressure from fans over a few seasons after season ticket sales were expected to fall resulting in 5 seasons worth of publicity stunt price freezes. Harmony in the stoke fan camp was gone long before pulis was eventually sacked. And i don't blame them imagine watching games like they had to actually being attached to the team, having the smallest dimension pitch available, goalkeeper taking a minute per goal kick, hoofing aimless balls, diving for free kicks. Its horrific football that I think we could only hate once we had it and experienced the multi layered disgracefulness of it.
 
I seem to recall the pitch magically used to get smaller if / when Rory Delap played, so his long throws became more effective. You could actually still see the original white lines they'd removed from the previous match <yikes>

Not for NCFC, pretty please??
 
I'd have to disagree, attendances were dwindling way before then, highlighted by their european games not even selling out. There was massive out cry from lots of fans when pulls broke the stoke wage structure for peter crouch and only the pressure from fans over a few seasons after season ticket sales were expected to fall resulting in 5 seasons worth of publicity stunt price freezes. Harmony in the stoke fan camp was gone long before pulis was eventually sacked. And i don't blame them imagine watching games like they had to actually being attached to the team, having the smallest dimension pitch available, goalkeeper taking a minute per goal kick, hoofing aimless balls, diving for free kicks. Its horrific football that I think we could only hate once we had it and experienced the multi layered disgracefulness of it.

fair enough billy, you clearly know more about Stoke than i do <ok>
 
he's only had what, 7 games with rvw and 3 games with hooper? i think in general he has got fer into his best position during that time. again, its a lack of patience that is hurting us. hughton has to find the right formula soon but he can't just click his fingers and to be honest, much of the reason the strikers haven't clicked is down to their fellow professionals failing to choose the right options when in good positions.


Pretty much what I said on one of the other threads - our midfield players MUST look to see if there is a better option than shooting from outside the box!!!!
 
This is a crisis caused quite simply by the failure of a section of our "wonderful" support to actually support the team and the board. Hubris is the word that springs to mind (though drawing any sort of analogy betwen this idiocy and Greek tragedy is a gross injustice to the latter). I really hope that DM and his fellow board members stick to their guns. <ok>
 
You see the more this debate goes on, the more you feel inclined to give CH a little longer and hope that it comes good. Pulis and the type of football that he encourages does not fit in with the traditional Norwich way and would be purely a measure to keep us up at best. How that would affect the players is another matter but ultimately it is also the players themselves that need to take a hell of a lot of responsibility for what has happened. This has been a desperate time.
 
This is a crisis caused quite simply by the failure of a section of our "wonderful" support to actually support the team and the board. Hubris is the word that springs to mind (though drawing any sort of analogy betwen this idiocy and Greek tragedy is a gross injustice to the latter). I really hope that DM and his fellow board members stick to their guns.

and what is the cause of that Robbie? Are you suggesting a section of the support have simply decided to not support CH, because of who he is? That may not what you had in mind, but that is how I am reading it.
 
and what is the cause of that Robbie? Are you suggesting a section of the support have simply decided to not support CH, because of who he is?

I can't speak for Robbie so can't say for certain that this is what he means, however I'm sorry to say that what you have alluded to is a feeling that I get from certain parts of our fanbase and have done pretty much from the Fulham game last season.
 
I can't speak for Robbie so can't say for certain that this is what he means, however I'm sorry to say that what you have alluded to is a feeling that I get from certain parts of our fanbase.

Seriously? Has there been a section of the fan base that have not given their support at any time? If that is the case, then that is indeed incredibly sad, not to mention quite unbelievable.
 
and what is the cause of that Robbie? Are you suggesting a section of the support have simply decided to not support CH, because of who he is? That may not what you had in mind, but that is how I am reading it.

If that is indeed what he meant it would not be too unfair. But not just because of who he is.
 
and what is the cause of that Robbie? Are you suggesting a section of the support have simply decided to not support CH, because of who he is?

Not who he is, but who they have made up their minds he is, plus their inability to show any sort of understanding of the realities of where the club is, and the problems that were bound to be faced by anyone occupying the manager's seat. <ok>