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A big hoof from macauley

Discussion in 'Ipswich Town' started by johnnywarksmoustache, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    I've always said he is useless as have a few on here................................shandypants...shandypants..shandypants
     
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  2. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    Maca was garbage and not fit to lace Sonks or Collins boots. As I keep saying he looked good in a **** team.
     
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    WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM Well-Known Member

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    very average in a **** team.........
     
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    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree. All of a sudden we are playing well and we have a good team and he's a rubbish defender. I'm sure a few weeks ago JWM you were probably wishing he was back with us. Your judgement always seems to be pretty rash(like Spanish) and get to caught up in the heat of the moment.

    I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one but I think he's technically the best CB we've had at the club since McGreal. Yes he lacked pace and as I said before sometimes lacked confidence but last season he was monumental for us and I really do believe we could well have been relegated without him last year. Lets remember he's gone to a premier league team and Sonko hasn't so he can't be that bad.
     
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  6. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    ITFCPTC

    I have always thought that MaCauley was **** along with Norris. I have supported and watched Town for 40 years so I think I have a little knowledge and sound judgement about Town players <ok> I have lost count of the amount of mistakes Maca made that ended up costing us goals. Yes he's gone to West Brom but lets face it they are hardly known for their quality defending. I can't believe that you actually think that Maca is better than DeVos! Sonko has actually played regualr premiership football for Reading where as Maca is just a bench warmer at WBA. I'm just so glad that your not our football scout because we would really be in the ****!
     
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    Agree with ptc on this. He was never a worldy but for us he was a key player. End of last season apart, which may have been due to his dwindling commitment to the club. Sonko has played all of 5 games for us and looked class but that's no garantee he won't let his form slip
     
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    KOPR You obviously haven't been to many games over the last 3 seasons! Maca was a key player but in a very ****e team, that doesn't make him any good! <ok> I seem to remember that Magilton paid way over the odds to Leicester for his services and they had been relegated that year.

    I just wish I have a quid for everytime he aimlessly hoofed it out of defence. He wasn't even a goal threat from corners or set pieces but I suppose with Leadboots delivery that is more understandable.
     
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    JWM I have to agree with you on Norris, pretty awful player. But I think McAuley was a far better footballer than De Vos!! This is by no means a slight on De Vos because he was a superb leader and captain and had that certain precense McAuley lacked, he was also superb in the air. But in terms of footballing ability, McAuley is far superior. I think Magilton paid a decent price for him but the biggest mistake was making him captain straight away, I'm not really sure he was/is captain material, although I'm sure after 3 seasons with us if he had it now he would have grown into the role.

    JWM I think from what you say as we are going into the whole insulting malarky that despite watching 40 years of ITFC people can still have poor judgement on the team. Sometimes people know more who watch less and I think 606 is a shows this on many occassion. Many people on this site who go to every game I really don't know if they understand football, or understand alot tbh but some who rarely go appear to have a far better judgement than those who go all the time.
     
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    ITFCPTC You are of course entitled to your opinions and if you think that Maca was a decent player then fair enough. He just wasn't for me and I suspect a large majority of Town fans. As for his technical ability, if you think that constantly hoofing it out of defence with the hope of finding Walters merits great technical ability then fair enough!
     
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    As I said before JWM I think we will have to agree to disagree.

    I agree his distribution wasn't great but in the time he was here not really any players distribution was good, I think he improved a hell of alot in that part of his game when Jewell came in. I remember seeing him alot last season chest the ball down and then play it out from the back which this time last year he would have just aimlessly hoofed it, although he's not the best on the ball I think alot of this can be attributed to the style of team we had back then. In terms of technical ability I mean his reading of the game and positional sence which I think he was the best defender we have had since McGreal!!!
     
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  12. WEIGHTY CRIMSON PLUM

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    Nah I'm pretty sure Drissa Dialo was a lot better! <laugh>
     
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    Don't forget Santoss
     
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    Manuel Thetis Wow what a player!
     
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  16. Guru of Ipswich

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    I have to agree with Plum and JWM, McAuley was made to look better than he was because of the **** around him, There is no point winning the ball and just giving it away again. I just always expected him to pull out of a challenge and not put his head in where it hurts, I just hope PJ extends sonks contract soon and gets a bid for collins pretty quick.
     
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    McAuley was one of our better players but I think it shows how we settled for mediocrity, I cant believe the quality of footbal we are seeing now compared to just a few weeks ago let alone last season. No wonder Jewell didnt try very hard to keep McAuley, Norris and co, he came in fresh and saw what a second rate bunch we really were, he got rid of most of the dross and got others playing to their potential. Now thats a manager.
     
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    <applause>

    I can't argue with any of that Fieldmarshall!

    I just can't believe that some people actually rated Maca in the first place. Excellent technical ability my arse! Excellent in as much as giving away possession too easily!
     
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    Fieldmarshall, spot on! perhaps thats why delaney was rated better than he is, because against McAuley anybody would look half decent.
     
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  20. itfcptc

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    I in general agree with all your points regarding mediocracy within the team fieldmarshall and with regards to the performances which I think just shows how well Jewell has done and how bad Keane was considering he spent nigh on £12 million on an already decent squad, only he could've made us one of the worst Ipswich teams in our history with the resources and support he had!!! But as I'm sure you can tell, I disagree with you about McAuley, I'm pretty sure he would get into most teams in this division.

    Also fieldmarshall I think Jewell did try to keep Norris and McAuley, thank god he didn't persuade Norris to stay. I'm pretty sure Jewell would have really wanted McAuley to stay, he also had alot of top clubs after him, including Middlesborough last summer and I think generally Mowbray is a good judge of a player. Although it is a shame Jewell offered contracts to Delaney who is by a long shot alot worse than McAuley and also Healey. Although I think he wanted to sign these players up because it wasn't guarenteed who we could get in, so it was more a case of keeping the numbers up!!

    Guru I actually think why people thought Delaney was so good last season was because McAuley was constantly getting him out of trouble. Surely you can see from this season in terms of results at the start with McAuley missing from the end of last season in that backline and look how many goals we conceded, coincidence I think not. And in terms of goalkeeper and LB we are better this season, so McAuley was clearly a big influence to us last season. When Delaney came on against Coventry this season Collins didn't look anywhere near as good because he was covering for Delaney all the time. If McAuley was playing with Sonko or Collins I'm sure you would see him in a different light and I reckon he would be getting in ahead of Sonko atm in the team, thats not to say Sonko isn't a good defender.

    I'm also in disbelief JWM in that I can't believe anyone thought Jewell wasn't doing a good job at the club, if you get my gist?? As I said before technically I don't mean so much on the ball, more his reading of the game. His distribution along with every other defender has been appaling over the last few years whether due to them being rubbish on the ball or our negative hoof ball tactics but he did improve this part of his game at the end under Jewell's stewardship.
     
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