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9/11 What are your thoughts ?

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  1. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    I love the way these loonies try and justify their reasons....<laugh> what bull they talk...<ok>
     
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  2. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    your the master of your own pet hate david <laugh>............the guys have heard it all from you in the past in footy terms....... so why is youre knowledge gonna be any better on a subject that's obviously way over your head.

    ... your government is in control>>>>go back 2 bed david your government is in control.


    [video=youtube;fZkhR8suCF4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fZkhR8suCF4[/video]
     
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  3. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    love this track>>>>

    [video=youtube;yi3M-BmvAeE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yi3M-BmvAeE[/video]

    wrong thread?>>>>maybe
     
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  4. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    What you like Aber!!! :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  5. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    they used 2 call me a bugger when I was young, but than can be taken out of context on the tinternet hey <laugh>
     
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  6. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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  7. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    I just watched those Aber, and no offence, but what a load of crap lol

    What exactly was the point of the first, it said nothing about what you were saying, UNLESS your using the really poor graphics where they said the plane took a sharp turn south as a point.

    On to the second, no proof, just someone's opinions, nothing at all to back it up other than his word. Don't you think, that if these people were alive, as the guy says they are, they would come out and plead their innocent, or are you going to tell me that they are part of the conspiracy, oh but wait, why keep them alive, they killed off any whistle-blowers right? So why not kill off the ones who really could blow the whole lid of this mystical operation, ya know, the ones they said were in the planes, makes very little sense. And its not like they are nobody's, pilots..... that's not a nobody, that's an intelligent individual, do you think they don't read the papers, or watch the news and see their picture being used to blame the attacks on terrorists, why are they not denying these claims.......probably because they were on the planes, and can't deny it.......what ya reckon.

    And the 3rd, I mean that ex general has clearly lot the bloody plot. The rest just look like some people trying to make a name for themselves. Are they actually ex-forces like they say they are? Or is it just news companies trying to make a quick story? I don't know, but I certainly will not take the word of someone on the news, they could be any tom dick or harry. More fool you for it though I suppose.

    Edit: done some more digging, and found this:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/1559151.stm

    What ya failed to mention, is that at the time this was found out, they were only "suspects". Makes this whole issue farcical at best. Not everyone who is a suspect is guilty.
     
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  8. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    you carry on and believe in your government dude>>>I will let you explain the reasons why America attacked Iraq and Afghanistan when the threat came from Saudi allies <ok>.....go ahead im very interested in what you have 2say <ok>.....I`ll read your reply in the morning bright and early.


    we can then take on Syria and why America is backing the Islamic terrorists in that part of the world>>>>>>>>I wont even mention the money americans put into the IRA funds>>>>>>and I wont mention the end timers on the gazza borders who want the apocalypse 2 happen so they can be saved for being pure Christians for the lord god himself <ok>.........and im not even gonna say about the funds they gave the Nazi party especially FORDS <laugh>......good night and try 2 sleep tight the NSA are watching over you <ale>........tiz just a pity they fail 2 stop terror attacks <laugh>
     
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  9. swans-cartoonhead

    swans-cartoonhead Well-Known Member

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    Wish Bill was still with us - would love to hear his thoughts on the world as it is today! Bill Hicks was a great comedian and social commentator and someone who would always challenge the 'status quo' (no, not the crap rock band! ;) )
     
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  10. swanselona

    swanselona Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting for your proof aber. Now don't change the subject.

    But that's what you conspiracy theorists do when asked to provide proof, run off or change the subject.

    As I said earlier, the government are far from squeaky clean, but anyone who thinks this was all an inside job are a few screws loose in my opinion. And seldom offer anything substantial to back up their claims.
     
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  11. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    When I look at an apple, I say that it is an apple, when I look at a car, I say that it is a car, when I look at a controlled demolition of a 47 storey building, I say it's a controlled demolition of a 47 storey building.

    When the word Politician is mentioned, I think corruption, when the term big business is mentioned, I think corruption, when the word Religion is mentioned, I think corruption.

    When I hear the name 'Anglo-American world power' I think corruption, when I hear the name 'The United Nations' I think corruption.

    When Great Britain, became a world power in 1763, where the sun never set on her empire, she began her exploits around the globe in earnest, but as her powers diluted over time, as did here predecessors (Rome, Greece, Medo-Persia, etc), she continued her strength with her new partner in crime, the ascending American power, and you have subsequently today an alliance between Britain and America, that has been forged through time and experience of the British empire, and common interest, but make no mistake, these two that form the Anglo-American world power, control the UN, as they do pretty much all commerce on planet earth, they are without doubt kings of ambiguity and deceit, nothing, absolutely nothing they say, can be ever trusted, and their deceit knows no boundaries, so when living under such a king, you really need to think well out side their propaganda box, they after all control everything.

    Do I believe that Islamic terrorists, organised the perfect demolition of those gigantic twin towers, by flying planes into them? not for one minute, and the cover ups after the distruction had been done, shows all too well that other forces were at work here, but as the saying goes every dog has it's day, and the days of Britain and America are numbered, and into the dustbin of history they will go, just like those that went before them.
     
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  12. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    i always thought you were a looney and a friend of david ike's lunatic beliefs dragon but im shocked you are admitting it publicly...<laugh> ...Its a terrorist attack just like all terrorist attacks all over the world even 7/7, lockerby and other attempts still being made everywhere. <ok>
     
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  13. aberdude

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    do you listen 2anything bro>>>>the evidence doesn't need 2 be given by us even tho there are many sources of evidence(come 2 my house ive got stuff that wouldn't last 1minute in the controlled internet viewed by the public)....the fact is the 9/11 report left experts baffled by the explanation of the investigation panel>>>>>>did you even listen 2the fire fighter vid I put up(major protocols not carried out).......do you not take the word of top engineers who say the collapse of 3 buildings is a joke excuse(newtons laws does not exist with the towers and building 7...do some research bro).......yes we all saw the planes hit and we have all seen the muslim attackers, but what we didn't see was the planting of bombs on the structure 2 make sure it made edge of the seat AIRTIME ON TV.....like I said I was on a tiny island in the northern atoll when I watched the 2nd plane hit..........

    did you know that only months previous 2this did the buildings get insurance taken out on them(I wonder who owns the trade centre buildings)(whistle) <laugh>.....3 trillion vanished the day before from the American reserve(vanished)....not one single attempt 2 shoot down the planes which have obviously been hijacked and going 2 be used in an attack>>>they were warned by various nations that this would happen......they just allowed it 2 go ahead for the bigger picture which we have all seen since>>>>>>hundreds of thousands dead and trillions upon trillions of our money gone 2 massive arms companies(I wonder who owns these companies lol) and other structures in the process of war>>>>>>90% of the casualties of war since the 2nd world war have been innocent civilians>>>>>>shouldn't our Christian leaders not be dealing in an eye for an eye>>>>that's the muslims worlds take isn't it <laugh>.....


    like I said swan your welcome in my house anytime and take some of the stuff I got away with you spread the info and the need for change>>>>>>>>>>>do not trust the internet as being honest and free they control what goes on and leave you in the hands of anonymous for keeping us informed on the dark sides of life.

    [video=youtube;XxV3_siATgY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxV3_siATgY&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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  14. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    we will not forgive, we will not forget.....
     
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  15. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    dragon <ale>>.......good man keep spreading the word dude <ok>.....these Nazi`s need 2 be caught well before they reach theyre late 90`s this time <ok>.....our country has blood on its hands and im ashamed 2 be part of the process tbh.....I was one of the kill the muslim race types when the whole 9/11 thing happened.. I was arguing one day with the cleaner(traveller anarchist) in the factory about it and he just stated 2 look and study and research and things will look different....he went 2 the g20 in Scotland and came back with lots of free dvds with lots of information that confirms things wernt as they first appeared...........so it wasn't an overnight decision I made on the subject I did my own thing and came out supporting the fact we had just been pulled into a war with control of regions the main focus and whilst using fear/terror as the main trump card they managed 2 rip most of our freedoms and liberties from us at the same time........




    ps swan a well informed jack(sorry cant remember your name) put me onto the oliver stone the untold history of the united states doc and im thankful he did because its brilliant and shows how America works warts and all.


    [video=youtube;cH01JCgt36M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cH01JCgt36M[/video]
     
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  16. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;rAy_lm78sWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rAy_lm78sWU[/video]

    [video=youtube;SwZFsW-jvuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SwZFsW-jvuo[/video]

    [video=youtube;VxE7bcC139c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VxE7bcC139c[/video]

    let me tell you if invading forces treated my neighbours friends and family in this way then no doubt they could expect attacks back......its fking revolting and if your proud 2 be part of that then your nowt but pigs of human beings no better than the whitetrash redneck yanks playing call of duty(a game) with human lives.........................Bradley manning leaked this info and we all know what happened 2 him yeah (yet again)
     
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  17. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    I need not say no more if that's not enough info then, im afraid im flogging a dead horse on the subject.

    I`ll leave you with bill hicks and the media and the way we stereotype...

    [video=youtube;qZqYV9KKOZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qZqYV9KKOZQ[/video]
     
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  18. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    DPJ: "Do I believe that Islamic terrorists, organised the perfect demolition of those gigantic twin towers, by flying planes into them? not for one minute,"

    1: It wasnt a 'perfect demolition'. Check your facts.
    2: Your later comments again show a lack of objectivity. Like others in your camp you're looking for a conspiracy because of your obvious and inate distrust of the Establishment. Nothing wrong with questioning the powers that be of course but you are happy to seize on anything that supports your theory in those circumstances, even if it's baseless.

    Remember folks, that's all it is, a conspiracy theory with no independently varified evidence whatsoever to substantiate it. Unlike you DPJ, and others here, I looked into 9/11 in the years after the event and read copiously on the subject from an objective standpoint. If anything I was rather cynical about the official story. But in all that time I've seen nothing to convince me it was an inside job. Nothing.

    As for your comments about the U.S and the U.K being consigned to the dustbin of history.....I hope you're wrong. We ain't perfect and have done some pretty bad things over the years but we've done a whole lot of good too (that scene from the Life of Brian springs to mind). India and most of our former colonies in Africa have been stuck in a time warp since they kicked us out. Supposedly 'free' people that have been subjected to grinding poverty and in many cases horrific civil war ever since. Same for the French and Portuguese colonies too.

    If you are right, the new world order will probably see the rise of Asia and in particular, China - a totalitarian state that brutalises its own people but yet we do business with them because they're so big nobody can ignore them. God help us.
     
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  19. crackerman jack

    crackerman jack Well-Known Member

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    DPJ - that was the biggest load of **** I have EVER seen typed on here. And considering some of the other posts on this thread that is saying something. If you really believe what you typed then you need help.
     
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  20. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Knackered I don't need to check my facts, my own eyes did not deceive me, and the scandals way all the evidence was cleared away from the crime scene, the complaints that went unheard from the New York fire service, over breaches of standard protocol in gathering evidence, the Trillion dollar black hole, the companies that were targeted in the twin towers, the civilian hijacked planes that were never civilian but military, the involvement of the Bush family with the Bin Laden family, I could go on, and on, it's just the usual deceit from the likes of power crazed animalistic leaders from the west, that will soon be no more, history is proof of that, so do me a favour, don't wast your keyboard time trying to explain away what I and others see!...............<ok>


    There are plenty of moronic sheep in the west, who follow their demonic leaders, but I'm not one of them.
     
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