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Match Day Thread 4 goals in 14 minutes. Welcome to the reality Dick.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Brian Storm, Apr 11, 2015.

  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I tend to think watching two years of f ucking ****e is even more boring but you keep roasting them chestnuts mate.
     
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  2. Nostalgic

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    Too many imponderables to go one about players under contract and once signed they are what we have to work with. PDC blamed everyone but himself claiming his tactics were let down by the players and for some reason it carried from there. As I said today's performance is one for the dustbin, a win next week and they will be heroes as they were last week.
     
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  3. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    So why are you blaming the manager if the players he inherited are lazy twats.
     
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    You think you have problems. You will probably stay up, because we are ****.
     
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  5. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    Not blaming the managers alone at all, just do not see why PDC has to be trotted as a wizard. Last week we beat the current poorest form team, this week we lost to a team who are on a streak of wins. Our team just did not deal with the windy conditions or their high speed game today, everything we dreaded happened not through want of laziness or hangover or whatever as PDC would have gone about.
     
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  6. Brian Storm

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    <doh> ffs how long have we had a DoF now? At least learn how it works.
     
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  7. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Can't recall one reference to anybody calling PDC a wizard, just a bloke who told us how it was and the players not liking it and getting him the sack and then getting Gus the sack and then getting !!!! the sack etc etc.
     
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    How Watmore and company cannot get a game defies belief, get Bardsley and Colback back.
     
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  10. monty987

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    We need a billionaire oil shiek to run this club, as it has been wrecked by Short in about 4 years. Henderson, Sess, Bent, Jones, Gyan, not signing Borini, Danny rose, Simpson, Wellbeck, Bentdner etc etc, is why we are ****e.
     
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  11. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We need someone to hit you across the face with a spade.
     
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  12. ROBOJOHN

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    Can,t believe people were prepared to leave at 1 down, that is shocking, as it is they were proved right, in reality we got battered by a much quicker, stronger outfit
     
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  13. RedNWhite4Life

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    What you think PDC didn't have an ounce of a say in any of those 14 players that were brought in? If that turns out to have been the case Di Canio was a much bigger **** up than I thought.

    A DoF identifies the targets but if the manager doesn't want those players he can say no. I mean who in there right mind is going to let some ****er bring in 14 players they had no say about who they are going to be judged on as if they are ****e (which they were) then ultimately it was the managers head on the block.

    Then again if anyone is thick enough to let this happen Di Canio is a prime suspect.
     
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  14. Brian Storm

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    DoF holds the budget and oks the deals. The way the DoF chooses to involve the manager is his bag but the responsibility lies with the DoF. We can speculate till the cows come home who said what, it doesn't matter, lets stick to facts, It's the DoF's final say, The DoF works the budget on all levels of the squad. The responsibility stops with the DoF. He signs of the deals with his signiture, not anyone elses.

    Even though Gus took responsibility for Bridcutt and Buckley, he's not responsible, he may have plagued Congerton until he agreed for all we no but it doesn't matter it still the DoF's responsibility 100%. He's listened to Gus, accepted his choices on those two targets, the DoF has negotiated the transfer terms, the DoF has negotiated the contract terms and allocated funds from his transfer budget.

    It's the DoF who signs of on deals, ie, PDC signature won't be any transfer papers anywhere.

    It's down to the DoF, simple as that. Dress it up with speculative third party input all you want, it doesn't change the fact that buck stops with the DoF.

    People really need to get their facts right on the DoF role, either that or stop using it to manipulate the set up to try and blame who they want. DiFanti is 100% responsible for his signings like Congerton is 100% responsible for his transfers. It's nobody else's responsibility. Fact.

    It's really not rocket science to grasp.
     
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  15. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I have no idea who's to blame for our performances over the last 3 or 4 years.

    I can't believe its because a few of the lads like a few too many beers, just a few times too often. At any club with aspirations of progression, and intent to professionalism, that would be weeded out.

    There has to be a deeper, more insidious problem, something more systemic within the club, that several managers haven't been able to, or strong enough, to resolve.

    There are so many aspects to a football club. Ownership. Management Board. Team. Grounds, including stadium and training facilities. Finance. Support base. Many of them are tangibles. Real. Something to work on and with.

    SAFC ticks so many of these boxes.

    Then there are those intangibles. Knowledge. Experience. Psychology. Desire. Systems. We can tick many of these as well.

    So why can't we put it all together? What's missing?

    This club does my bloody head in!
     
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  16. leez

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    **** manager always has been .... over hyped as usual ..
     
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  17. JustMeMan

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    Or a spit, Some times called a grafter, to be honest he makes some good points in that post.
     
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  18. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We don't need a billionaire oil sheikh at all. How many clubs have one of those?

    Short sold players who wanted to leave at good prices. They weren't replaced well. The money was spent but the quality wasn't brought in.

    I don't see Short being at fault for how we are. Why would he invest more when we get **** all from expensive signings as it is.
     
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  19. JustMeMan

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    To keep you happy my friend we do need a oil sheikh.
     
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  20. The Relic

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    Are we really so sure that di Fanti's signings were sh*te? Moburg-Karlsson looked pretty good when he came on against 'Spurs in Hong Kong. Cabral pleased a lot of people in his game against Fulham Altidore was on a record breaking streak for U.S.A. And so on. But let's just bear in mind that these new guys walked into a club with a megalomanic manager who was at civil war with many of the senior players almost from week one. It wasn't the easiest atmosphere for new players to settle into, was it? I'm sure not all of di Fanti's signings were Messi-like. But I've never been so sure how bad they were either. I reserve judgement on that. They can't have found it easy coming into a club like that.
     
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