As i have said before i do love a bit of **** but Grabban looks too rough around the edges , supers and i were mentioning earlier that Lafferty is the team stud muffin .
I bought a Grabban 7 shirt after his binman heroics and i have 2 options either never wear the bloody thing or convince myself he is going to be the one to fire us up to the Prem. I still see poor saps walking about with Winkel shirts on .
I get a bit fed up at times with the negativity on here, but I think there is plenty of room for constructive criticism. Merely asserting that a player is 'rubbish' is hardly constructive, or even meaningful. Six goals in 13 matches is not rubbish. Suddenly Simeon Jackson was a wonderful striker in spite of not scoring many goals. Without Grabban's goals we'd be in mid-table or below, so let's get a grip. IMO, Grabban is better playing wide in a 4-2-3-1 so that he can use his pace to good effect. No he's not a clinical finisher, but he will score goals this season. At Bournemouth he was playing in a counter-attacking side which suited his pace and movement. At City, he is up against packed defenses every week and finding it more difficult. That is natural. As for the whole picture on this, I liked Mick Dennis' take on things: http://norwichcity.myfootballwriter...debate-be-constructive-and-without-acrimony/?
I've always pretty much agreed with Mick's writing and I think he's got it spot on. We need to get the ball forward faster and the shots on target to be a higher percentage - which I'm pleased to see it was on Saturday. Hopefully, Bolton's keeper won't be in such scintillating form!!!! Not worth starting a new thread, but an interesting article in today's EDP - http://www.edp24.co.uk/norfolk-life...ion_is_masking_the_reality_1_3822503#cxrecs_s
If that's me you're telling to "get a grip" Rick I just want to point out that I never said Jacko was "a wonderful striker", just that I believe he was better and offered us more than Grabban does. Regarding the goalscoring record, it's early days to compare but I do know that Grabban has started nearly all the games he's appeared in whereas Simmo was heavily employed as a sub.
That explains a lot about your recent posting There's no shame in having a shirt with the name of a player who you like on the back, even if he's not playing much or not very good. I was very close to buying a Wilbraham shirt! And I would have worn it with pride. But you have to accept they're not great players. Like I said, Grabban has talent, but he's not got it all round. I actually think that Grabban could improve his technical ability and shooting with age, though it's not easy, and then he could be PL level because his movement is good enough. But improving technique this time in his career is challenging - not impossible, but would be hard work.
I think Rick just means generally - and he's right. It's easy to exaggerate on here in an effort to make a point, which goes for both sides of the Grabban argument. Grabban has clearly contributed, but he's also clearly far from perfect. I don't agree Grabban should be out on the wing, because I think you need someone who can retain possession out wide, particularly with the players we have and our style. However, Rick you make an excellent point about Grabban fitting Bournemouth's style - which seems to me a nother reason why we should bring him on as an impact sub when we want to rush forward, rather than starting games against fresh defenders. Grabban and Jackson are actually good comparisons - should be used in the same way. I think Jackson is better technically and (at Championship level) probably a better finisher, but I think Grabban probably brings a bit more all round in terms of height and strength.
grabban - jackson is indeed a good comparison and i agree that grabban perhaps has slightly better movement and is physically stronger but that jackson was a better finisher, worked harder for the team and technically a bit stronger.
Jackson scored 17 in 73 games which is not a great record but he was a great servant to our club , he was certainly not Premiership class but we all have different views on the same players .
I think the Jackson appreciation may largely come from his goal rush in a short period, during the run-in on the promotion season, with goals galore in a handful of games which followed a baron 6-7 months or so leading up to it. (Even 3 of those were after he came on as a sub, against Scunny!)
i don't think anyone is particularly suggesting that jackson was a great player. he wasn't. and neither is grabban. they are similar though
Do you not think the Grabban appreciation (what there is of it anyway) also comes from nothing more than his goal rush in a short period with goals galore in a handful of games? Pretty fortuitous goals as well most of them. Wouldn't surprise me if we saw a barren 6-7 month period following it rather than leading up to it, he's already had two months of it. Hopefully the "promotion season" bit remains the same though
No it wasn't you in particular, TM. As Rob says, people stretch points in order to criticise (as well as the opposite).
The record books will state that he scored the winner at Portman rd and will be remembered for that by many Norwich fans. The same as Lee Croft he was the difference on the day.
Quite - some players will remembered fondly for just a handful of games, and the rest of their career at City largely forgotten. If we get promoted this season, and LG has a significant goal haul, he too will remembered fondly by many.
It is ironic that the major problem from last season has come back to haunt us again, paricularly after such a promising start. Scoring is largely about confidence and hopefully Jerome or Grabban might get an early one on Friday and their fortunes may change (hooefully). Personally I would like to see Hooper given a run from the start and see if he can bring a spark to proceedings. Certainly pre-season the general mood on here was that he would bag a lot of goals in this division and his extra quality may edge a few games where it is tight.
At least Hooper probably had a lot of experience against packed defenses at Celtic. He could get a start if it's going to be a 4-4-2 (I hope not), or perhaps Lafferty could have another start with Hooper and Grabban as impact subs. It's interesting to see that Holt had only 3 goals after 14 games in the Championship. He only really got going with his hat-trick against the Binners.
