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I think it gets forgotten that was prompted by Hamilton breaking team fairness agreements and Ron not being prepared to side with Fernando over his protégé. I think ultimately from that moment Fernando was going to end up leaving McLaren even if he hadn’t made that threat, the situation was only going to get worse from there.

I honestly hadn’t forgotten that , but I do tend to treat them as separate incidents .
You are correct however , that is where the seeds of discontent were sown .

Glad you mentioned that actually , as there seem to be a lot of haters of Alonso ( I’m not one , brilliant driver , and funny at times , just has baggage imho ) , that blame Alonso for that , but yes it was instigated by Lewis breaking a team order .
 
I'm sure if you were reading Spanish news at the time you would have the completely opposite view point.
 
I honestly hadn’t forgotten that , but I do tend to treat them as separate incidents .
You are correct however , that is where the seeds of discontent were sown .

Glad you mentioned that actually , as there seem to be a lot of haters of Alonso ( I’m not one , brilliant driver , and funny at times , just has baggage imho ) , that blame Alonso for that , but yes it was instigated by Lewis breaking a team order .

The way I looked at it, the first mistake was Ron’s. Drivers push the boundaries, so you can’t blame Hamilton and you can’t blame Alonso for what happened during that session. There was a moment afterwards where Ron should have put Hamilton in his place “no one is bigger than the team”, and mollified Alonso. Once he didn’t do that, he’d picked a side and Fernando wasn’t going to be able to stay.

It’s a fair opinion that Alonso shouldn’t have threatened to expose the McLaren cheating, but I assume it was said in anger and within a couple of hours he’d calmed down and wasn’t going to go through with it, but by then it was too late. That day has shaped Alonso’s subsequent career for sure, but I think was Ron siding with Hamilton, rather than Spygate that was key, in that if he’d just gone “fine then I’m off at the end of the year”, things would likely have panned out very similarly for him.
 
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The way I looked at it, the first mistake was Ron’s. Drivers push the boundaries, so you can’t blame Hamilton and you can’t blame Alonso for what happened during that session. There was a moment afterwards where Ron should have put Hamilton in his place “no one is bigger than the team”, and mollified Alonso. Once he didn’t do that, he’d picked a side and Fernando wasn’t going to be able to stay.

It’s a fair opinion that Alonso shouldn’t have threatened to expose the McLaren cheating, but I assume it was said in anger and within a couple of hours he’d calmed down and wasn’t going to go through with it, but by then it was too late. That day has shaped Alonso’s subsequent career for sure, but I think was Ron siding with Hamilton, rather than Spygate that was key, in that if he’d just gone “fine then I’m off at the end of the year”, things would likely have panned out very similarly for him.

Yes fair comment about Ron should have told Hamilton that “ no one is bigger than the team “ .

No doubt Alonso threatened to blow the whistle was a Heat of the moment comment .


As an aside to all that , the saddest thing about the whole spygate saga IMHO was the Suicide of Nigel Stepney .
 
Yes fair comment about Ron should have told Hamilton that “ no one is bigger than the team “ .

No doubt Alonso threatened to blow the whistle was a Heat of the moment comment .


As an aside to all that , the saddest thing about the whole spygate saga IMHO was the Suicide of Nigel Stepney .

That had passed me by completely. Looking online I see there’s a lot of “mystery” around his death for obvious reasons. I’d not really been aware of how his life had gone after being banned from F1.
 
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That had passed me by completely. Looking online I see there’s a lot of “mystery” around his death for obvious reasons. I’d not really been aware of how his life had gone after being banned from F1.

Yes . Police said he stepped into the path of an oncoming HGV .
Coroner said -

A subsequent Coroner's inquest "concluded it was a suicide", but also said they had "found no reason for Mr Stepney to take his own life", and recorded an open conclusion.
 
Just looking for additional info re the 2026 Modes and found this: f1 2026 modes.
I didn't realise that the Overtake mode is actually an extra charge allowance that can only be used on the subsequent lap, it can only be activated when they are within 1 second of the car in front at the detection point!
The Boost mode allows them to use maximum power or a profile configured by the team at any point in time.
The Active aero can only be opened on selected straights defined by FIA.

I do wonder what the graphics will display - I bet we will get almost zero info on battery levels, boost or overtake mode as that would give other teams a heads up.
 
Just looking for additional info re the 2026 Modes and found this: f1 2026 modes.
I didn't realise that the Overtake mode is actually an extra charge allowance that can only be used on the subsequent lap, it can only be activated when they are within 1 second of the car in front at the detection point!
The Boost mode allows them to use maximum power or a profile configured by the team at any point in time.
The Active aero can only be opened on selected straights defined by FIA.

I do wonder what the graphics will display - I bet we will get almost zero info on battery levels, boost or overtake mode as that would give other teams a heads up.

I wonder how well overtake mode will actually work. It’s effectively the DRS replacement, but unlike DRS which was free speed, you’ve go to create this energy somehow, so if you want to use it you’ve got to find somewhere in the lap to gain the charge. There won’t be any more “free energy” available, so it’s going to compromise some other part of the lap.

Because these systems are charging and discharging completely several times a lap, any info is going to need to be “live” to be useful, I suspect the only real indication will be the light on the back when the cars harvest.
 
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Just read that Aston are limiting the number of consecutive laps their drivers can do to between 15 and 20 laps!
This is due to the potential to damage the drivers nerves from the vibrations!

Interesting reasoning for not really running.
 
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Surely not. Things can't that bad.

It's one thing to have a **** engine, but to build a car so bad that getting someone to drive it for 30 minutes breaches the Health and Safety at work act? Historic.
Cheds correct .

Below is from Autosport .



The Honda engine vibrations that Aston Martin is suffering are so severe that they limit the number of laps drivers are able to complete without risking damage to their hands, Formula 1 team boss Adrian Newey has revealed.

The new partnership between Aston Martin and Honda got off to a disastrous start in pre-season testing when a variety of reliability issues limited the AMR26's running. The headline item was excessive vibrations coming from the power unit, which kept breaking the engine's battery unit until the team ran out of spares.

As revealed by Autosport, Aston Martin has come to Australia fully expecting to just turn a limited number of race laps before being forced to retire both cars. Speaking on Thursday morning, the squad's team principal Adrian Newey revealed the real extent of its vibration woes, admitting drivers Fernando Alonso and Lance Stroll are only comfortable turning a limited number of laps before risking nerve damage to their hands.

"What we have achieved for this weekend [is a solution] that tested on the dyno over the course of the weekend that has successfully, significantly reduced the vibration going into the battery," Newey explained.


"But what is important to remember is the power unit is the source of the vibration, it's the amplifier. The chassis is, in that scenario, the receiver. A carbon chassis is a naturally stiff structure with very little damping, so the transmission of that vibration into the chassis, we haven't made any progress on.



"That vibration is causing a few reliability problems, mirrors falling off, all that sort of thing, which we are having to address. But the much more significant problem is that the vibration is transmitted ultimately into the driver's fingers. So, Fernando is of the feeling that he can't do more than 25 laps consecutively before he will risk permanent nerve damage to his hands. Lance is of the opinion that he can't do more than 15 laps before that threshold.

“ We are going to have to be very heavily restricted on how many laps we do in the race until we get on top of the source of the vibration and improve the vibration at source."

The team says it is upbeat about the innate performance potential of its car, but because it hasn't yet gotten to the root cause of Honda's power unit vibrations, there is no clear timeline on when it can eliminate or reduce them.


"From Honda's point of view, unfortunately we have not yet been able to run the power unit at the maximum RPM," said HRC president Koji Watanabe. "It's quite too early to say what the performance is yet, so let's understand the situation."

Newey said: "Given a bit of time, I see no inherent reason within the architecture of the car why we can't become, on the chassis side, close to, if not fully competitive. On the PU side, if we simply talk about pure raw power, then there's no point in speculating. We'll find out, particularly on Saturday, when everybody has their engines at full beans.

"One of the problems with these regulations is that the shorter you are on ICE power, the more you have to make up for using electrical energy to cover for that lack of ICE power, which means that by the time you really want that electrical energy on the straights, your battery's gone flat. So it becomes a self-fulfilling downward spiral."
 
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The issue with the Aston Martin is not the engine, it’s the design of the car itself.

The Honda engine is making it shake but only because the tolerances and stiffness of other parts of the car didn’t meet their initial target!
Honda worked to certain parameters which then Neweys car didn’t meet.
 
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The issue with the Aston Martin is not the engine, it’s the design of the car itself.

The Honda engine is making it shake but only because the tolerances and stiffness of other parts of the car didn’t meet their initial target!
Honda worked to certain parameters which then Neweys car didn’t meet.
I don't know if that is fact or personal opinion. If fact the issue is communication during the design phase.
Clever people are sometimes not the best communicators.
 
The issue with the Aston Martin is not the engine, it’s the design of the car itself.

The Honda engine is making it shake but only because the tolerances and stiffness of other parts of the car didn’t meet their initial target!
Honda worked to certain parameters which then Neweys car didn’t meet.
Adrian Newey himself said the cause is the engine , the chassis amplifies it , but the root cause of the vibration is the engine .

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I guess it’s possible there’s a resonance in the chassis, but the fact that they’re running detuned suggests the root cause is in the engine.

Since the engine became a structural member in the 60’s, I can’t imagine anything other than “as stiff as possible for a given weight” has been the best situation for the interface between the two.
 
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From what I have seen, it appears that the MGU-K is mounted in front of the ICE to the bottom left side, so the battery pack is a stepped dual height box with the fuel tank above part of it. It seems like everyone else have the MGU-K to the side of the ICE. No idea if this is contributing to the vibrations but it's not something that's easy to change as the whole engine, gearbox and battery pack has been built round this configuration.

What I don't get is how this issue hasn't come to light before testing. Williams had their car on a dynamic test rig that simulates track running when they couldn't make the Barcelona test. Was Aston that late that they couldn't actually test a complete car in any way till they actually arrived at Barcelona?
 
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From what I have seen, it appears that the MGU-K is mounted in front of the ICE to the bottom left side, so the battery pack is a stepped dual height box with the fuel tank above part of it. It seems like everyone else have the MGU-K to the side of the ICE. No idea if this is contributing to the vibrations but it's not something that's easy to change as the whole engine, gearbox and battery pack has been built round this configuration.

What I don't get is how this issue hasn't come to light before testing. Williams had their car on a dynamic test rig that simulates track running when they couldn't make the Barcelona test. Was Aston that late that they couldn't actually test a complete car in any way till they actually arrived at Barcelona?
Ref your first point .

I have read that dropping merc power units was Stroll seniors decision .
If it was his and his alone , did he not realise that a new gearbox and part of the rear suspension had to be designed and built ?

I find it hard to believe that is the situation , but if it is , I wonder what others in the team think of the situation ?
 
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From what I have seen, it appears that the MGU-K is mounted in front of the ICE to the bottom left side, so the battery pack is a stepped dual height box with the fuel tank above part of it. It seems like everyone else have the MGU-K to the side of the ICE. No idea if this is contributing to the vibrations but it's not something that's easy to change as the whole engine, gearbox and battery pack has been built round this configuration.

What I don't get is how this issue hasn't come to light before testing. Williams had their car on a dynamic test rig that simulates track running when they couldn't make the Barcelona test. Was Aston that late that they couldn't actually test a complete car in any way till they actually arrived at Barcelona?

The integration of the MGU-K is essentially dictated by the rules in that it has to be geared and connected between the ICE and the input to the gearbox. The e-machine should be much smoother than the engine and I’d be surprised if the architecture of how they are joined is key to this. The two orange boxes will be the battery (larger lower) and the power electronics (upper smaller) I think rather than some kind of split pack.
 
Ref your first point .

I have read that dropping merc power units was Stroll seniors decision .
If it was his and his alone , did he not realise that a new gearbox and part of the rear suspension had to be designed and built ?

I find it hard to believe that is the situation , but if it is , I wonder what others in the team think of the situation ?
Interesting.
I can see Strolls point though, getting Adrian and having to be a customer wouldn't be the best of plans. I wonder if it was an all in type thing?
 
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