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  1. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what our Honda man thinks of the announcement of this huge battery factory being built in Somerset.
    But for Brexit this factory would have been built in Spain.

    Good old Boris
     
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    But how much have we paid TATA in Government incentives to build it here rather than abroad ?
    Don’t get me wrong, it will hopefully be very good news for Somerset eventually in terms of local employment but I’m sure it won’t all be profit
     
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  3. Redprintt

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    Angelic, I completely agree about the 'incentives'.
    We're already miles behind the rest of the world but in the round I think it makes sense and pleased it's happening in the UK.
    Whether electric is the way to go is another issue.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Good point. From what I've heard, hydrogen might well the way to go for a lot of modes of transport in the future. This is something that's been being championed by James May for at least a decade or more, given it's the most abundant element in the universe, and doesn't take the exploitation of kids to mine precious metals like Cobalt and Lithium for electric batteries.
    Something else I didn't know is this. For wind farms, a turbine has to spin continuously for 4 years before replacing the amount of energy used to actually build it !
    The blades last from 3-7 years and are constructed of toxic elements like fibreglass, so can't be recycled, Instead, they go to landfill !
    It takes 60 gallons of oil to lubricate a turbine and they can leak badly. When the oil reservoir runs dry the turbine can catch fire.
     
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  5. realred1952

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    I thought if you grind fibreglass you can then use as an inert filler in the new process?
    I used to travel into Cornwall almost every week sometimes 2 or 3 times the first or one of the first wind farms there on Bodmin moor was an amazing sight when first went up it had been in situ for about 10 years when I started more regular visits and since 2000 till 2019 went down almost weekly never saw much activity on the 20 or so closest to the road ..or never saw any blades being transported by road ... you would need a massive crane to change them??

    hopefully they dont let that happen !
     
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  6. realred1952

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    There is still a lot of research into petrol engines and a new generation that are even cleaner and more economical than the best ones presently.
    Getting rid of petrol and diesel vehicles is a healthy thing .. however it is only half the use of a barrel of crude! I am in favour of exploiting all our oil reserves, as I posted elsewhere we have the cleanest crude oil in the world, the gas is the same as everywhere else .. what we need to do is concentrate on cleaning up the use of it .. and economically get rid of the tie between Gas and ELECTRIC!
     
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  7. Angelicnumber16

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    Petrol and diesel will die out in time of course, but we should be fracking now too, and giving out new licences for North Sea oil and Gas exploration, at least for the foreseeable future while modular nuclear reactors are built and while we have an energy crisis with massive household bills.

    Despite being 32 Trillion dollars in debt, the US have lower inflation than us at 3%, as they are self sufficient in energy, especially oil, gas and electricity.

    When we cruise from Port of Tyne there are a lot of wind farms off the coast of Nothumberland and across the North Sea towards Denmark and Norway

    Not sure if the fibreglass used in turbine blades is different to the normal stuff, but it's supposedly very toxic. Like you there are turbines that I've never seen turning and that's the drawback when the wind doesn't blow.

    There is hydro-electric too. Weren't they going to look at doing this across the mouth of the River Severn which has the second highest tidal flow in the world ?
     
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    I assume 'Honda man' means me because I reported Honda quitting the UK as soon as Brexit was announced (but apparently Brexit has nothing to do with their decision...)

    Yes, the factory is a great boost for Somerset and the UK. It's nice to have some good news at last.

    We've stuck £quadrillions into the Brexit Bandit fruit machine and just won £5

    Still £5 is better than nothing.

    As for the South Pacific trading bloc we've just joined; the usual suspect newspapers (Express, Mail) were reporting that it will be a £14trn boost to our economy - deliberately ignoring (or hiding) the fact that we already have trade agreements with all but 2 members of the bloc. In real terms it'll mean about £1trl, but hey - another £5. Brilliant.

    £10 and counting. Maybe next year we'll win another £10 (trying to be positive). We might even claw back our losses by the turn of the next milleneum......!!
     
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  9. realred1952

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    when oil / gas eventually run out in about 100 years time? hopefully there will be substitutes for plastics and rubber type goods!and something to go on the roads ...
     
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    Not surprisingly the BBC and the Left like you, dissed the agreement with the South Pacific bloc.

    Fair play, at least you're bu****ing off to Gib, pity you couldn't take the rest of the naysayers.
     
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    I wasn't 'dissing' it - it IS a good thing. The pro-Brexit press were 'bigging it up' and fudging the figures to make it seem like the most amazing thing ever.
    It's just NOT going to suddenly inject the economy with £14trn (any more than all that EU money being redirected to the NHS was) because we are already trading with most of the member states under current individual treaties.
    Malaysia and Brunei are the only 2 member states that we didn't already have trade agreements with, so our membership of the bloc will benefit us because they are now trading partners. That's GOOD - just not £14trn good.

    'A significant milestone for UK trade': Britain signs deal to join £12trn Indo-Pacific trading block | Politics News | Sky News

    I am off to Gib but not until 2027 unless I can persuade my employer to make me redundant!! Off over there in early September for a holiday though - it's their National Day when they celebrate the result of the 1967 referendum which delivered an overwhelming wish to stay British. They are about as pro-British as you can get over there - but they still voted overwhelmingly for Remain. It is possible to be both <cheers>
     
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    That’s providing there’s a planet, or civilisation to use it.
     
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    People do not realise as you just published the returns do not happen in days.. they dont read the terms of the brexit and the payments that are due until ......x date.

    One of the reasons the opposition is pushing the NHS failures is because .... of the slow progress! now in 2018 we got back in the black and made a load of promises regarding almost everything "emergency services" and started on it as current figures show the improvements! the money from the Brexit was not expected to be available until 3 years or so after Brexit.

    When as a responsible leader you dont paint the true picture, just one that suits your scoring political points it causes confusion in the public domain. ONE day a media outlet will do a peice that starts on 1st January 2016 to now. it will encompass the things you highlight along with the ending of austerity ... why it was necessary and how it worked the publishing of we are in the Black leaving the EU and what the aftermath timetable of payments etc are, the GE and the feel good factor a bouyant economy [ because we took the pain to get a gain ] .. the downside of bouyancy = COVID = massive spending [ the PPE in the bigger picture was like doing your weekly shop and finding 1 of your bunch of grapes are bad ] .. and its achievements .. start on the recovery and enter evil murderer Putrid and conflict in the .gov where it all went wrong .. aided and abetted by half the tories and the opposition.... "the perfect storm"
     
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    A 13-week long campaign by Just Stop Oil (JSO) has cost the Met Police more than £7.7m, the force has revealed.
    The Met said the cost of policing 515 protests carried out by JSO since April has amounted to the equivalent of 23,500 officer shifts.
    Over that time more than 270 people were arrested over the demonstrations, which included slow marches and the disruption of high-profile events.
    The force called the action "crime", but JSO said it would continue.


    On top of that there are dozens of other officers having to do shifts " in anticipation" like at Aintree / Epsom etc etc so likely £10m been spent on those twats... add in .. all the other protests and additional officers having to cover pickets and you have likely spent the best part of £30m for the year out of the police budget .. have to comment on the rain .. scattered showers, NO ISILATED SHOWER!!! .. just took a look I have blue sky all around my house.. well a circle of cloud at 45 degree's is overhead and just dumped about 8 mins of real heavy rain .. edge of cloud must be over ANGELIC'S HOUSE! .. 9 mins now .....
    police budget, well that would pay for 850 new officers or 17 extra for every police force in the country. ... still raining ....

    When you hear the MP's slagging off who is responsible for the state of the country and its finances etc none of them actually state the obvious... the truth is around £1 a week for every worker every week goes to pay for this and the fee's for the immigration hotels probably add another 50p a week for the other costs involved. Poor people would porobaly love an £20 a month or so if it wasnt for these costs ... ah ha rain stopped , might get my purple sprouting planted now!!!!
     
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    The number of people living in temporary accommodation in England has hit a 25-year high, according to the latest official figures.
    Almost 105,000 households were in temporary accommodation, including more than 131,000 children, on 31 March this year.
    This figure is 10% up on the same day last year, the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities data shows.
    In Plymouth, one mum told BBC News of cramped conditions living in a hotel.
    This latest figure for temporary accommodation surpasses a previous high of 101,300 reached in 2004, and is the highest since records began in 1998.
    The figures also show almost 14,000 households were in hotels or bed and breakfasts in the three months to March.


    In my area over the past 2 years we have seen an awful lot of non English speaking people taking over the rentable accomodation that was / is housing association. People that I know who who live in the areas and chatter amongst neighbours tell that these properties when the elderly resident/ previous person vacates younger people on the list used to move up the list with a view to taking one on if it suited them. In 1 area in the past 2 years 12 people have moved out or died! A family that was pretty close to top, in top 10, after waiting 4 years are still waiting and now 5th or 6th and never been invited to a viewing! [ how many have moved out in past 4 years!!!! ]

    WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE who are in temporary accomodation due to no rental properties being available and what it costs the councils ........
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    There are currently more than 200 families living in hotels and bed and breakfasts in Plymouth, and the local council estimates it will spend £6.8m supporting them this year, about 10 times more than five years ago.
    "The whole system's broken," says Chris Penberthy, the lead member for housing.
    "We don't have enough affordable housing for people who need it. So our waiting list has gone from 8,000 to 12,500 in the last three years.

    there is no easy fix, let alone a quick fix ... Plymouth is saying it needs another 10,000 houses at least!! yet are still obligated to take x number of illegal immigrants / asylum? seekers.

    Its time the 2 main parties forgetting SCOTLAND had their heads banged together and stopped trying to score points or be anti everything that needs to be done ... what happens when inflation drops back to 4-5% makes a mockery of the arguments at first put forward about needing a rise to be in step with inflation and their demands for 7 or 8% or more are double inflation rate!!!! imagine ... employer and WORKERS UNION MEET ! Employer states before we start we have scrubbed the pay deal that was on the table a 6% when inflation was at 12% 6 months ago and drawn up a new one offer is now 4% but will still pay the £500 sweetner and extra day off..................
     
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    There is also a record number of young people in this country who are homeless
    Accommodation that becomes available, even a barge, should be offered to our own people over immigrants trying to game the system

    The solicitors who are making £10k per asylum seeker by lying and putting forward false information on their applications should also be investigated and struck off

    Glad the CEO of Nat West is gone too
    One less woke eco zealot in very senior positions within British institutions who have their priorities all wrong.

    There have been tens of thousands of people who have had their personal and business accounts cancelled by various banks with no explanation and who have no recourse for appeal. They are arrogant beyond belief and the whole sector needs reforming. That’s without her extortionate salary which is over £5m a year !!

    Now deny her a bank account and see how she likes it when the boot is on the other foot.

    Now to get rid of some of the others and stop the anti British all inclusive rubbish that’s been allowed to seep into our society and companies that the vast majority of people don’t want.
     
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    not this year though! She had already been told her bonus for this year was a goner so must have thought ... without the bonus why stay ..........!
     
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    Why deny her a bank account? She didn’t deny one to that frog-faced racist grifter. Coutts simply decided that they didn’t want him as a client and offered him a Nat West account instead. Why is the media and government getting involved in the commercial decisions of a private company?

    Laughable that people leap to the defence of a millionaire who is so self-entitled that he thinks he has the right to bank at Coutts. Record child homelessness, cost of living crisis etc yet this absolute nonsense is headline news.

    And let’s be clear, you do not speak for the “vast majority of people”.
     
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