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  1. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    Still cant find where the words for the RCN say "WE RECOMEND " as opposed to the result of our talks is blah blah blah ... YOU NOW NEED TO VOTE on whether to accept 2 different things! the vote was against it being accepted!...AGREED ... but issue is did Cullen say "I recommend this offer to be accepted" if so where was it said/ published? ... I seem to have missed that .. as I said a few times, but you havent said where!!!!
     
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    I’m not privy to correspondence from the RCN to their members. All I know was at the time it was reported the the RCN had recommended the latest offer be accepted by their members, the members then voted against it, and commentators suggested Cullen hadn’t read the mood of her members, also suggested she’d have difficulty trying to negotiate another deal when she’d accepted the previous one. Her reply was she is a voice for her members, she will do whatever they ask. She also pointed out that the reason they’d recommend it was she was aware of the hardship being on strike for so long had on the rank and file. The exact opposite to what you are suggesting, not an agenda by Cullen.
     
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    She hadnt accepted the deal the deal was on the table "it was an offer" going back to the members .. "this is on the table" = vote opposed to "I recommend we take this offer as nothing better to come" = vote are different. Unite waited till RCN before their vote! We cant say it would be different outcome if one or the other accepted but so far there is a lot of acceptance but other NHS departments.

    this is the key where did you hear / read this comment.......... the latest offer be accepted!
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    It was all over the news,
     
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    over the news was the vote ! after the event
     
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    The inference was Cullen would find it difficult as the RCN had recommended accepting but the vote went against them. She said they’d recommended acceptance due to financial hardship the members had faced during prolonged strikes but was happy to accept their decision.
     
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    those that have got no worries about losing pay over striking likely holding out for more although they dont need it? i mean if your long term plan is retire at .. 60 on money saved and p: pension then holding out for more would not be a hardship as the extra would bring more money at 60 or retire earlier! those struggling would appreciate the offer of 5% and £2k and not suffer wage losses by striking ...
    anyway long drive tomorrow 620 miles 1 stop 10 mins for fuel and a pee maybe got me bottle! lol
     
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    Have a good trip.
     
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    Listen to Laura kurnssberg this morning 30/04/23, 10.45 mins into the show, Mark Harper confirmed the RCN leadership recommended the latest offer to be accepted, it was the members that turned it down.
     
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    Ashton
    PM questions and now LK on a Sunday morning.

    Try walking.
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I agree, as it's all bollocks!!
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that insightful contribution <laugh><laugh>
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Your welcome........Only given out to my besties <laugh><laugh>
     
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    https://apple.news/Aee6sNZ4ZSfyKOXj5a3H6xw
     
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    It's this Governments failure in not delivering the economic opportunities that Brexit offered, failing to protect our fishermen and their fishing grounds against the French and Spanish (and others) and failing even more miserably to control our sovereign borders with any force or purposes, which was a fundamental promise of the Brexit vote. Instead, we have allowed this country to be an open house, which any day now will surely bite us on the arse and innocent people will once more get caught up in something horrible that isn't of their making.
    In addition, our inner cities such as London, Liverpool, Manchester, and now Wolverhampton being the latest are awash with drugs, knives, guns and gang warfare. Another Government failing.
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    There's so many looking, including civil servants, for Brexit to fail.
    Get over it.
     
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    That's because most of the Civil Service are Labour supporting remainers.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Failing isn't an option. It's happened.
    We need to make it work - like an amputee needs to learn to live without his limb - but it's not working yet and the NI (and Gibraltar - which doesn't get much press) situation doesn't help.

    I don't get the impression that people are deliberately sabotaging it - why would they? We won't re-join the EU. That ship has sailed. I just think we were as a nation woefully unprepared for it

    We just simply aren't as attractive to trade with outside the bloc as we were when we were in it.
     
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  20. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    I do.
    Same with Rwanda.
     
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