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  1. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    The majority of their income comes from England ... [ / uk ] 1 instance is the military budget especially naval ] what is in Scotland could be transferred to 4 sites in England .. most awkward would be the subs, which they dont want anyway ... could always have a democratic vote on each island! [ group ] to make sure they want to leave! or should the vote say leave then do it afterwards to ask if they want to rejoin the UK ... then we could point out how financially beter off they would be!
     
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    wants to "steal" all the north sea oil... £20bn fund .. revenue at present from North sea is £3bn?
    will need to wait till next week what her schedule is.



    addendum edit 20 : 28hrs apparently over a period of 10 years hoprfully they add that all media comments ...10 years
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I also don’t want Scotland to leave the Union but the poisonous Sturgeon hates England and the English despite the fact they get more money per head than any of the 4 nations and can’t deal with basics like education and healthcare
    She’s a vile dictator and some of the barmy laws that are being rushed through their parliament are disturbing, and normal people must be surely questioning the wisdom, or rather the lack of it !
     
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    Wales don’t want to move away, only some do. What pisses the Welsh off and it’s not only the Welsh but the Cornish it’s the second home brigade pushing up the asking prices preventing those brought up not affording property in their own area.
     
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    PISSES OFF a lot not just Welsh and Cornish .. the programme on Cornish fishing was an eye opener and how new developers buying up old scrap yards like in Hayle to turn into apartments costing 2 or 3 times the local price for a 2/3 bed house with garden and parking/garage... then first occupiers complaing about the smell of fish/ seaweed / and piles of stored crab and lobster pots .... for the 3 or 4 weeks they actually live there ... I would wait till they go home then put a few herring through there letter box .........
     
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    This is a very common source of anger by the Cornish and the Welsh - particularly around Pembrokeshire where I spent a lot of time.
    What I find interesting is that all the anger and hatred is solely directed at the second home buyers themselves - and not a dickybird is mentioned about the greedy locals who decided to cash in on selling there houses to them in the first place - the original 'local' residents, who rubbed their hands with glee whilst accepting the money being offered for their historical family homes.
    It takes two to tango - I do get the frustration, but the sellers are just as 'guilty' as the buyers IMHO.

    You also have to ask yourself what all those potential local youngsters do for work in those places - what are the industries that would support all the young families? Hospitality, tourism and a tiny bit of fishing. If the locals are too hostile then the tourists won't feel welcome - which would hit their local economy hard.

    Gibraltar has a good way of ensuring local people have access to local housing; only certain properties are available for general sale and they tend to be very expensive. The remaining properties have a 3-year residency restriction on them - you can only buy one if you have been resident and paying into the system for the past 3 years. Those properties are a lot cheaper. Maybe a system like that might work - it's up to the local councils to apply it.
     
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    North Sea oil does not belong solely to Scotland surely ?
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Liz Truss is apparently pro (legal ?) immigration and as our birth rate falls I can see a case for allowing legal migrants from the Indian subcontinent and the Far East in to be carers or nurses. When a country has falling birth rates it will severely affect having enough tax payers in the decades to come, as the population ages and there are too few people working to pay for social care or carry it out.

    But last night the owner of the Camelot Hotel in Tintagel was on TV. He'd received a phone call a few days ago from someone wanting to book the whole hotel for a year at a very generous rate indeed.
    After some digging, he discovered the caller was asking on behalf of the British Government to house illegal migrants, and that there was also an option to fire all of his staff and a replacement skeleton crew would be drafted in to run the place.

    The owner, and fair play to him flatly refused the offer and said it was the principal of not only wanting to safeguard his staff's jobs, but what were all of these undesirables going to do all day in a tiny place like Tintagel ? Which is exactly the same issue being faced in the likes of Winford, Wrington/Redhill locally now and hundreds of other small places around the country.

    Yet we are apparently going to be offering the French another trifling £50m to do even less than they do now to not stop it.

    How much of this illegal immigration is going to be enough before someone in this Government has the guts to start forcing these dinghies back to where they came from and never mind the following outcry at home or internationally that will occur ?

    Never mind formally withdrawing from the ECHR and all the further delays and money it will cost. We should simply ignore it as it's not fit for purpose, and comes from a time some 70 years ago when the world was very different to how it is now.
     
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    there has always been a housing market in Cornwall and prices were on a par with Bristol in the mid 80's The company I worked for offered me a job based in Cornwall I looked at houses in various coastal area's from Falmouth around to Newquay I could have sold mine and moved to a "bigger house" [ this one was "5 bedrooms" now 4 .. bit more garden at back space for 1 car at front sea view from upstairs and pocketed £ about 2k........ what happened was people were selling normally but "outsiders" were getting involved saw the house I was "buying" in 1987 in 2013 was up for sale £475k my house here same one was £270k or there abouts [ just up north coast from Hayle Portreath ].
    THE RENT TO BUY SCHEME WAS THE KILLER for Cornwall .. TV programme highlighted disaster it was causing for locals ... yep it added to employment for 16 or so weeks for a local person £ -4 day week looking after property between or with guests ..... cleaning etc ... Small % were year round lets ... even smaller % actually had owners living there for a few weeks! ...............

    NO JOB 3 bed house on coast or quaint little harbour on the dole a few weeks work in summer ... full time job 100 miles away and sell house buy at new destination and pocket £50k ... or more? ... the choice is yours!!!!
     
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    there is a coastal limit for all countries ? 12 miles ? North sea oil is the geological area called the north sea plate /shelf? Oil/ gas comes ashore [ mostly Aberdeen? ] have 3 friends work on the rigs month on month off sort of thing ... one is a geologist .... did tell me all about it when discussing shales and quartz ..!
    I think there is some sort of partnership thing regarding the whole complex BP Shell ETC ETC Scotland/ UK/ ownership of refineries... onshore landing area's etc etc Scotland would get £2-3 bn's annually but so would rest of UK .... ????
     
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    this is a very tricky conversation ... different TV programmes have sublime references regarding the population ... a few years ago one media outlet published that in x years [100?] thepopulation of the UK would x million of coffee coloured people! with more than 50 % being non christian.
    If adverts are anything to go by it is already happening!!! Fair dues on the Tintagel owner stayed there on holiday a couple of times [ caravan park ] everyshop sells King arthur stuff EVEN THE BUTCHERS!!
    It wouldnt be 60 guest in 40 rooms it would be more like 300 guests in 30 rooms wear and tear and "crime" [ always seem to get comments on crime increases where they get concentrated ] rest of town [ is compact ] would lose holiday makers appeal.
    I think you mentioned about Winford? well driving around the roads nearby in the summer avoiding a family of 6 or 8 in the narrow lanes was a wonder no one got killed ... or did they?Imagine 1 road in and one road out scenario
     
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    It's reckoned that by around 2050 the major religion in this country will be Muslim, yet Justin Welby and the C of E still have no interest in trying to drum up any further support for itself to make any form of challenge in yet more evidence letting the country go to the dogs and be taken over by non British people.

    My family church is St Nicholas in Whitchurch in which I was christened, married, my were children baptised there and many of my family members going back 4 generations are buried there.
    The permanent congregation there is around 10 parishioners, all of whom are of a certain age, and the church has no permanent Vicar, and hasn't had one for about 4 years as the flock has died off.

    When the current 'faithful 10' are gone and no one attends on a Sunday, which by the way is now the only service now, presumably the church, which has stood from around 1,100 AD will probably be boarded up and permanently closed.

    The owner of the Camelot hotel was told not to worry about any damage (intentional or accidental) that might be incurred as he would be very well rewarded once (or if?) he ever got or wanted the hotel back or could have any repairs carried out by qualified contractors.

    He could easily have taken the money like the guy at Winford has done, and who instead of owing £1.7m can be debt free when he gets Winford Manor back, but I admire his stance.

    As I said on another thread, I had 2 separate hotels in Wolverhampton cancel my bookings as they were raking it in from the Government to house illegals.

    I'm glad that as a nation we have so much spare money to burn and offer exceptional quality hospitality to illegal non UK residents, when some of our own people are living in poverty with a cold, hungry and heatless winter on the way for many. I find it all absolutely gut wrenchingly sickening.
     
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    or auctioned to be turned into flats.. like pensford was! ....
    so assume his £1.7m was a payment that gives him a tax free living for 12 months [ or 18 months 6 months to rebuild! ]
     
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    I'm not sure that they can do that (turn it into flats) as the churchyard still allows internments of ashes into family plots, although there have been no burials since my Mothers in 2009. She was the last burial, and that was in a family plot which is now full. Did Pensford have a churchyard attached to it ?

    What is there to rebuild at Winford Manor or were you just joking ?
    The Government have said that any damage caused by illegals to accommodation will be made good before it is handed back to the owner
     
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    there may have been a very small one anncient ... think burials is in the church just up the valley at Publow! 2 church's were sort of linked 1 vicar covering 2 but attendee's less than a dozen and now publow is centre for both lots.
    Winford just joking sort of .. ends at 12 month's but wont be fit to move into ...! for yonks ... if ever
     
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    A GE must be in the offing, this joke can’t go on , if it wasn’t so important it would be funny. It’s a farce.
     
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    I think KK was a ‘fall guy’. Truss must have approved the budget.
    Not sure what to wish for really. A GE would probably the FAIREST option - but would it be the BEST one. Would Starmer’s lot do any better? I don’t have the answer.

    I bet Sunak is enjoying this.
     
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    The whole thing really is a clusterfuck isn’t it? Boris and Rishi, both very quiet at the mo, must be peeing themselves with laughter!!
     
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    We could have a GE but from where I’m standing (sitting actually) I can’t see the Labour Party have any credible answers other than raising taxes as they always do, but throwing money at things doesn’t always work
    They have no monetary policy, no immigration policy, no education policy so all I can see is us being brought back closer to the EU, more leftist woke ideology and diversity & inclusion
    There’s also the possibility of Herr Sturgeon being part of the set up and I just couldn’t stomach that
     
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