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2020-21 : that was the season that was

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  1. The Changing Man

    The Changing Man Well-Known Member

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    Whilst no one moment can define a season - The Lanzini goal does seem to have defined ours, bad refereeing, Winks not putting ball in row Z and a player scoring a worldie that he may never repeat - The point that they gained and 2 we lost would also have swapped our league positions at the end of the season.
     
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  2. Roo

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    whilst I don’t disagree with you, I’d love to see a table of stats that includes each team in the league with decisions that didn’t go their way, as well as VAR/dodgy refereeing working in one’s favour.
    We definitely had some bad calls, but I’d like to see a like for like comparison for every team.
    Surely this must average out? Unless you’re Bruno Fernandes/Man United.
     
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  3. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Domestic cup competitions :

    1. The League cup was dealt with as professionally as
    possible, with the team sheets reflecting the opposition
    and the performances therein.

    The final itself was more of a reflection of the general
    morale/mindset malaise that had already poisoned the squad.


    2. The FA cup campaign was conducted in a similar manner.

    The bottom line however is that when you send a strong team to
    Everton, score 4 goals and still lose, that is a savage indictment
    of the on-pitch discipline.
     
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  4. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Europa League :

    IMHO everything prior to the KO stages was done near perfectly.
    In particular :

    - the qualifier games interleaved with PL fixtures, when the squad
    would have effectively no summer break after the 2019-20 season

    - the compressed UEFA group stage fixture schedule

    - the squad rotation, Vini doing the business in attack etc


    The Zagreb away game however was a shocker.
    With hindsight it was the real indicator that squad resolve/morale
    had gone on the pitch, and the manager was incapable of
    doing anything to correct it.
     
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  5. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Squad :

    1. New boys

    Hojbjerg has had a decent season.
    His strengths and weaknesses are there to see, and on the
    latter time will tell as to whether fatigue (he played a lot of
    games) and formations are a great deal of the latter.

    Reguilon had a season of two halves IMHO.
    His general attacking play is good, but his defensive discipline
    leaves a bit to be desired. On the latter, age is on his side so
    he can improve.

    Vini did a decent job when called upon in the EL + FA cup games.
    Sadly not given enough chances to see whether he is a
    PL standard striker who could take the load off of Kane.

    Bale.
    We got moments of the old Bale of Spurs, and moments where
    Zidane looked wholly vindicated in ostracising him from Madrid.
    How much of the overall picture is due to real match fitness or
    attitude, who knows. There is still a class player within.

    Docherty.
    What was the point of signing him ??


    2. Incumbents

    So many players badly declined this season.
    Toby / Sanchez / Alli / Sissoko etc.
    If it wasn't moments of class gone, it was also baseline levels of reliability/trust.

    Son played a lot of the season with a spring in his step and a
    smile on his face, and the results spoke for themself.

    Kane went up a level in his overall game with his service to Son.
    A joy to have watched, but sadly some other club is now
    probably going to benefit from it.
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    No it doesn't average out. If there is no bias the number of points gained or lost by each team will be something like a normal distribution centred around zero. To know the spread you need to know the number of wrong refereeing decisions that affects points. I would guess each team gets about one every three matches so with each one affecting one or two points thats a maximum of 18 points gained or 18 lost. Although having all thirteen decisions in your favour is very unlikely. Some teams may well have gained or lost 10 points though.
     
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  8. The Changing Man

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    The season ends and I have rated all the players on a scale of 1-10 where 1 equals Dier and 10 equals Kane.

    · Lloris – 7

    · Doherty- 2

    · Regullion - 5

    · Alderweireld - 4

    · Hojbjerg - 6

    · Sanchez – 1

    · Son - 8

    · Winks – 2

    · Bale – 6

    · Kane – 10

    · Lamela -6

    · Hart – 4

    · Rodon – 6

    · Dier – 1

    · Sissoko – 2

    · Lo Celso – 3

    · Dele – 3

    · Bergwijn – 2

    · Tanganga – 4

    · Lucas – 6

    · Ndombele – 4

    · Davies – 4

    · Vinicius - 5
     
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  9. Lovearsenalcock

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    Sissoko, Winks, Doherty 2 points <yikes>

    generous
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    Tottenham Hotspur: 2020-21 Season in review
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

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    Why would it average out?

    Take Jamie Vardy as an example. Dives all over the place and I regularly see other people being criticised for doing a Vardy.
    Initiating contact with a defender and going down is his signature move, yet you'd never know it going by the pundits or commentators.
    If they don't have any consistency and miss repeat offenders for years, then why would the officials be any different?
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    Actually, take Bale mk 1 and Vardy as examples of egotist refs + media hack Narratives (TM) .

    Remember when all and sundry was going on about
    Bale being a diver, even for the blatant moments when he
    was not ??

    Remember Vardy in the 2016 game against the Spanners when :

    - he was diving

    - a ref was brave enough to call it

    - he clocked up the cards which meant he got a red

    - the media hacks went into meltdown as they thought the
    subsequent game ban might derail the Lesta fairytale


    Jump forward 5 years and the same Vardy-onics + hack Narrative (TM) .
    In spite of that, a nice touch by Nemesis to make Bale himself
    the destroyer of both yesterday.
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Following on from TCM's ratings, I'd go with:

    Hugo - 7
    Hart - 6

    Aurier - 4.5
    Doherty - 1

    Toby - 1.5
    Sanchez - 1.5
    Dier - 1
    Rodon - 5
    Tanganga - 5

    Reguilon - 6
    Davies - 5.5

    Hojbjerg - 6.5
    Winks - 1.5
    Sissoko - 2
    Lo Celso - 1.5
    Ndombele - 2.5
    Dele - 1

    Lucas - 6.5
    Bergwijn - 1
    Lamela - 2
    Bale - 7
    Son - 8.5

    Kane - 10
    Vinicius - 6
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    My ratings are:

    Johnson - 7.
    Johnson - 7.
    Johnson - 7.
    Johnson - 7.
    Johnson - 7.
    Johnson - 7.

    Still no idea what that was about! <laugh>
     
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  15. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    2 nonsensical red cards, a few penalties and a blatant red totally ignored and some ridiculously soft ones given.

    And the teams those decisions profited? Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal & Chelsea.
    Big surprise huh?
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    One odd stat for the season: Erik Lamela has scored four goals in all competitions - or, to put it another way, scored one goal in each competition

    Some neat freak has got to be into that...
     
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  17. Roo

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    as I said initially, I don’t disagree. But I’d really like to see some stats on this.
    We’ve definitely had our fair share of ****ty decisions, that’s for sure!
     
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  18. remembercolinlee

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    1. I am glad we did not come 6th as it would have hidden a huge issue ... like coming 6th last season did.

    2. Am glad we came above the goons cos coming below them in their worse season in 25 years would have been grim wum wise with mates.

    3. This season has shown that certain squad/first team players are not top 6 quality, let alone top 4 or trophy winning quality.

    Dier, Sanchez, Alderweireld, Winks, Sissoko, Hart, Doherty and Aurier would not make the squads of any of this seasons top 6.

    Ndombele, Lo Celso, Dele and Bergwijn wouldn't get into any of the top 4 squads and while 1 or two may get into West Ham's or Leicester's squads they would not into their first teams.

    4. As we won't be able to get rid of them all I am not sure how much will progress next season.

    5. Am pleased the season is over!
     
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  19. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Agree with most of that, only thing I'd say is that despite a dog awful season, I think there's still a possibility Bergwijn can become an important player.

    Had his confidence wrecked this season and the racism towards him certainly didn't help but I think when we factor in how dangerous he looked when he joined, and the fact he was doing that most weeks for PSV, there's a player in there somewhere. A new (attack minded) manager will hopefully help release the shackles that have weighed him down this season.
     
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  20. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Take the key out mate, they're wound up enough <laugh>
     
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