Off Topic 2019 GE
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Chunksafc
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You could suggest it could end up being a perfect storm for a change to the political system, especially if we are still stuck in no man's land in 6 to 8 months time.
Trouble is turkeys don't vote for Christmas so that's probably not going to happen
You could. In fact, I hope that is what happens. I've always wondered why a 'Sensible Party' hasn't arisen to take a straight down the centre approach. With the Conservatives and Labour getting further and further apart, I think that's needed more than ever now. Whatever form it takes, a shake up would be good.
If that looks like happening, the self-serving tossers will wriggle out of it somehow, like you say.
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Chunksafc
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Wasn't that meant to be the Lib Dems?
Or Change UK or whatever they were called. The Lib Dems have always been a bit limp, though, haven't they? I think the Sensible Party need to be a bit more determined than the Lib Dems to get anywhere.
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Chunksafc
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I have to say that the Lib Dems do seem to just accept they will be third and accept what they get.
Your quite right though, if someone did form a party that took all of the best suggestions from all the parties manifestos and rolled them into one middle ground document they would romp home.
They may need a better name than "the sensible party" though
Your quite right though, if someone did form a party that took all of the best suggestions from all the parties manifestos and rolled them into one middle ground document they would romp home.
They may need a better name than "the sensible party" though
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Chunksafc
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Gets my vote and probably a huge percentage of the population's
WELL, my answer, and I'm not suggesting that it would suit everyone, has been to become cynical.
I appreciate that, on it's own, my single vote is meaningless.
This leaves me free to exercise it without regard to upbringing or family or tribal loyalties.
For example I usually vote for the largest party that isn't in power.
This on the basis that nothing frightens politicians as much as failing to be re-elected.
This in turn might, (perhaps) get them to be more responsive.
I made an exception to this rule while Chris Mullins was my MP because I trusted him.
Since his departure, I've reverted to type.
I adopt the same policy for local elections.
The result is often a vote for one party at a general election and another at local level.
And while this effects nothing, it makes me feel better.
As for getting shafted for x more years just consider the main issues this time round, (ignore Brexit, it's the one off issue).
Both main parties are promising huge new spending.
Some of us MAY benefit from some of this.
But borrowing has to be repaid.
Debts have to be serviced.
Every pound that's need to cover just the interest is £1 less for the NHS, (the opposition, whichever Party that is, will cry).
You mentioned your pride that half of you family had gone to university.
I couldn't go as I needed to get a job to help my mam out. But two of our Kids made it. So I share that with you.
But you surely can not put that achievement down to any one Party.
Since 1945 Labour and Conservatives have swapped being in power 6-11-6-4-5-16-13-9.
Both parties can claim to have improved the lot of the general population at one time or other.
Perhaps another answer to your question could be, 'forget tribal loyalties, consider the issues, (and if I may revert to cynical mode, -- Just because X party wants to saddle my grandchildren with huge debts doesn't mean I have to agree).
This isn't cynicism. This is being sensible. I've never understood the tribalism of politics. The concept that someone would be a 'supporter' of a political party seems absolutely ludicrous to me. They aren't football teams!! If more people voted on issues, or even if more people voted in the principle of 'you've been in power long enough' we'd have a much better system.
A right-wing, pro-Brexit, Conservative-supporting newspaper suggesting that the party that their readership are most likely to vote for could have lost their lead. Couldn't possibly be a ploy to encourage anyone thinking of not bothering to make sure they vote, could it? The polls yesterday showed that the Tory lead had remained the same for ages.
That's what I thought - on another note I find it strange that I live in a Labour held constituency with a 10,000 majority yet I have received 6 Tory leaflets. Four of these have been addressed to me directly. There must be some cash getting spent
That's the best thing you can do, have faith in the surgeons, nurses and
That's exactly what is going on there,' Get out and support Boris' 'Get it Dun'.