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Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by RogerisontheHunt, Jul 18, 2017.

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  1. saintKlopp

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    Sorry Bobby, but I couldn't be arsed trying to assimilate the data in your chart. As soon as I see phrases like "big chances" I switch off.
    Like all that "expected goals" drivel - just stuff to keep number-crunchers happy in their belief that their occupation has any meaning.
    I'll take your word for the conclusions you drew, but I'll still have more faith in what I see.

    Totally unbiased as I am in every respect, obviously. <whistle>
     
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  2. Prince Knut

    Prince Knut GC Thread Terminator

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    They said all that about Suarez.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Have you lot or have you not seen Sterling miss the simplest of chances badly.. i mean absolute howlers like...

    THe stats about chances especially chances in a man city side where me might be getting loads of great chances and getting a lot on target but then when his team ACTUALLY needs a goal he fluffs his lines karius style.

    The fact is we have seen him miss some of the easiest of chances regularly.


    Others might have slight harder chances or snap shots and not get them on target


    On its face a set of stats that tells me that Raheem sterling is on a par with Harry Kane must simply be ignored.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

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    For man city in a dominant team position?

    I have no issue saying the guy has improved
     
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  5. Tobes

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    His shots per game last season was virtually identical to his last season at Anfield, but he scored 11 more goals.
     
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  6. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Suarez just played in two sides that scored a lot of goals.

    Would he get as many in a lesser side.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

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    right......

    but what does that REALLY tell you?



    For having watched his final year where he was stuck as a no 9 not a winger under rodgers etc and he just fired weak shots at goal form time to time... I think i would conclude that at City he is getting far more regular and better chances in a dominant team.

    he's got a lot of goals and i think they were front loaded in the season as well in a really good run but you can't tell me that when the chips were down V LFC in the CL QF that he didn't fluff his lines three times badly and let his side down.

    IMO pep can do what he wants with him he takes his eye off the ball and makes terrible gaffs in front of goal.
     
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    I think Sterling may well have scored around 20 goals for us last season.Whilst he is a definite threat with his movement and pace and is a decent finisher i still wouldn't call him a natural / instinctive finisher.
     
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    I think the original question was about natural finishers. Sterling isn't one and Salah isn't as good as he could be. The fact that Salah's scored 21 out of 41 'clear cut chances' tells you all you need to know about his finishing. I'm just pleased that from this statistic, he's been in a 'clear cut' goal scoring position at least 41 times. That tells you his positioning is spot on but he needs to improve his finishing.
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Shouldn't that be 'Kloppski'?
     
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    Dostoevsky, Tchaikovsky, Trotsky, Tarkovsky, Kandinsky, Mussorgsky..........
     
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    -ski is more Polish than Russian.
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Second favourite author <laugh> Just dipping my toe. Should have known better, really.
     
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    He could equally have gone with saintKloppov ....
     
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  15. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Would have preferred that <whistle>
     
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    And Torres
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    What?
     
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    Tea pot?
     
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  19. RogerisontheHunt

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    PSG have passed FFP. Basically means they can go ahead with signing Mbappe and be in the same situation next year.

    Also any hopes of the Manchester clubs hijacking the transfer disappear (if there were ever such plans)
     
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  20. Milk not bear jizz

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    I commend Spain for having the balls to do it. Manager was obviously out of line in his timing and Spain showed some balls disciplining him when it is obviously not in their best interest.
     
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