Match Day Thread 2016/17 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

If Arsenal get top 4 again after their season I'm giving up on football

 

Arsenal are going to win all of their remaining games. It's what they do. They wait until the League is a long distant memory by solidly screwing up from January through February. When it looks like 4th place is just about beyond them, then and only then do they go on a winning run that is unstoppable. Weve been on the receiving end of this so many times it's depressing.

Discount every possible alternative theory. They will win all of their remaining games. Win all yours and you're home and hosed. Everything else is a waste of spirit. Try betting on them to win the next 3 games. It doesn't ease the pain but you can take the wife out to dinner after you shout at her.....the kids.......the cat.....etc.

 

to be fair, a top 4 place and FA cup final is quite a good season

 

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Being top 4 specialist you cannot rule Arsenal out. For 22 years or so they have not been outside the top four."Thirty nine steps I 'm counting"

 

They do have the knack. 4th, FA cup potentially and fans want him out??

 

Funny old world. I think they want either the champion league or prmiership league.

 

The only thing I don't get is they are desperate to qualify each year, but seemingly have no desire to win it each year. Just in it for the money.

 

Aye. To be realistic Arsenal should win their 3 matches. Never mind that it means 5 wins in a row. It is the teams the have to face. Having said, we need to keep thinking that win our matches there is nothing anyone else can do. Let's pray that the Hammers do not come out fighting.

 

What are the odds on PL top 4 finish now?

 

Liverpool 1/3
Arsenal 5/2
United 18/1

 

Liverpool 2/1 not to finish in top 4.
Not a bad safety bet

 

How many teams enter it each year and don't win it....or qualify on a regular basis and don't win it.

Maybe they are just not good enough; or when they are they come up against the best club side to have ever played the game in Barcelona?

 

Not saying you need to win it each year, but show desire and progression. A couple semi finals, regular quarters isn't hard to achieve for a club the size of Arsenal, yet they don't. Bayern are a fantastic team yes, but they shouldn't be getting slaughtered by them every year.

English clubs are behind other European teams, but over the past 20 years what have Arsenal contributed? 1 final thats it.

 

Been in the Semis once as well.

I think its just Arsenal aren't good enough for CL. It's not like they are like Spurs and Liverpool and resting their players. They play their first 11 and just aren't good enough in the big games (like we see in the PL)

 

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They have had some great teams in the past 20 years though. Just as a comparison, Liverpool over the past 20 years have only qualified 9 times, yet we have won it once, been to two finals and 3 semi finals. We had a good team for what, 1 of those years.

 

For this to happen would need a series of appropriate results. Very long odds. It can only happen if we get beaten by West Ham. Any other result, no chance.

 

It appears for CL football you have had a better team than Arsenal.

Make you think why a decent push for the title didn't happen more often

 

not all of that is rafa. quite simple really.. focus on defence. Wenger with respect since his assistant left and the old stagers retired has been proven to be a poor enough manager for defending.

What we did in europe in the mid 2000s and what houllier did was all based on defence... which suggests klopp is ****ed