2015-16 Season Progress (perfect for the Astro disciples)

It's equally valid as goals and assists though. Someone can beat an entire team, lay it off to someone who has the smallest of touches to someone else to tap in and they get no official credit. Meanwhile the person with the easiest tap in gets the main credit.

The stat confirms what is obvious to the eyes; Lukaku is scoring loads but 70% of the time he's just rescuing a draw. Benteke has fewer goals but they're each having a bigger impact.

My main point is so obvious and true though that people can't deny it and talk about me instead. Yesterday was the 101st example of a perfect time for an Everton goal to count and yet again the goalscoring machine Lukaku didn't step up. You can't say it's because City are great because he didn't do it at Newcastle either.

Basically Lukaku scores when the entire team supports him in attack, in which case they also concede.

#doingalukaku

 

But you are completely failing to see the poor defence argument to it. I player could score a hat-trick and get a hat-trick of assists too but still see their team lose!

The only time your argument works is if the team are already 2-0 or 3-0 up and the players scores whilst the team successfully keeps a clean sheet. Even then, the player still scored

 

I don't miss it, and I don't blame Lukaku for Everton's **** defence, especially not Howard.

My point is related to the #onemanteam effect. Lukaku was obviously going to score more than Benteke because Everton are all about him in a way we aren't with Benteke, which I why I stayed out of the bet.

The correlation is obvious; Lukaku isn't creating goals on his own he needs all the team to help him and they can't attack and defend at the same time. Clean sheet = no Lukaku goal.

 

The reason you stayed out of the bet is that you wouldn't put your money where your ever flapping and invariably incorrect mouth was.

Lukaku is top scorer in the PL while Benteke can't get in the Liverpool side, that's made you look like a tit. Accept it.

If Everton are all about Lukaku then they've done very well to score the other 21 league goals which has made them the 4th highest scorers in the league!

You would do well to occasionally not act like a 9 year old and instead give credit to something or someone that isn't associated with Liverpool. You come across as a very bitter and very sad middle aged man who is still living in the 80's!

It comes to something when even your biggest supporter (the fat bald one who changes his username every day) is disagreeing with you!

 

Well I must say Astro I think I have seen/read it all now (or maybe till the next time)

Unless goals are winners they don't count.....

If Liverpool won the league on goal difference would that count?

On second thoughts don't answer that I don't think it's worth even trying to go there lol anyone would be clearly just banging their head against the wall with you lol

 

Lukaku was going to score more goals than him, as he's better than him, simple as.

Most PL sides play with one striker - including Liverpool, so they're set up to provide opportunities for said striker to put the ball in the net.

If you care to re-visit the stats I posted about teams chance conversion, you'll see that both Everton and Liverpool have created virtually the same number of chances, the difference between Everton being near the top of that table and Liverpool being bottom is the fact that you missed yours!

Which is the strikers job sunshine, hence the reason Benteke has a ****e goal return and Lukaku is the leagues highest scorer.

 

If we swapped Lukaku and Benteke what would happen?

I'd guess that Benteke would have more goals than he currently has, Lukaku about the same, maybe a couple less? However, Lukaku would still have more goals than Benteke imo. Lukaku is a better player. @Tobes will recall me saying this when Lukaku was still at Chelsea and Benteke at Villa

 

I am mot so sure.....

I've seen everton deliver a lot better and faster balls and frnakly lukaku missing lots of chances

frankly..... he's also a bit of a **** and has gone missing last year when everton were struggling... put that in lfc team and he might well get the hump at the likes of lallana not passing and coutinho running off and shooting himself

Lukaku is lethal with his head no question... but i'd say at best he gets a third of chances on the floor

 

And yet Everton aren't even top half.

The #reality is Everton fans are the ones making themselves look like tits. They are the ones going on about how good Lukaku is compared to our strikers. Last season it was all about how their defenders had more goals than our strikers. And yet it gets them nowhere.

 

You're talking out yer hairy hoop again...

Lukaku has a chance conversion ratio of 30% this season, and he's only scored 4 of his 15 league goals with his bonce (4 right foot and 7 left foot)

 

Lukaku being better than Benteke this season is a fact borne out by the reality of the stats, it's therefore not a subjective opinion.

Where we are currently in the league table is irrelevant to this thread, which was all about the goal scoring of Benteke and Lukaku, you're merely trying to twist the focus away from the thread topic as otherwise you would have to be forced to admit the startlingly obvious reality, and actually concede that an Everton player is having a cracking season..............

 

Er no the point of this thread is to chart the progress of Liverpool during the season. Over time other teams have also been added in because of the #obsession of their fans and for comparison.

 

do oyu are saying he got 4 headers and scored them but missed a shedload off the left foot... got you...

 

You must have missed the - 30% chance conversion bit.....

Stop digging yourself a pit

 

TBF, if he had a 100% record with his head and right foot, that left foot would have a pretty poor conversion record

 

nope... as i said 4 headers scorer = lethal.. then he missed all the 70% he misses off his feet.
very simple..

your sad stat (what you accuse astro of) doesn't say how many of each he misses you just told me how many he got off each appendage.

 

His total chance conversion is 30% - second only to Wilson who played a handful of games.

I didn't post how many headers / shots were scored missed, as the chance conversion stat is a combined total.

You've just made a baseless assumption, to cover your blushes, a standard astro trait btw.......

 

so you trust a stat more than your eyes then......

I've seen him miss 4 chances in front of goal then pop in a hader a few times so i trust my eyes personally.

 

Lukaku has played 690 more minutes and has 45% more shots per game than Benteke, so scoring more goals is not a surprise.

Those goals (and assists) have earned Everton as many points as Benteke's have for Liverpool. That's just a fact.

 

So because Everton are below Liverpool in the league it's not possible for any of their players to be better than their Liverpool counterparts?

I bet you collect Match Attax cards.