Match Day Thread 2015/16 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Just making a point about lads waffling about style when they are actually just using it as an excuse to dig at one player who they've decided should not play for lfc for no good reason.

As I said I've heard style out-of a lot of so called big sides who've done nothing. .. lfc seem to now fit that category.

Utd fans whine about LVG cos they don't play a Ferguson style. Ehhhhh those days are gone and a new man is in. End of.

Spurs fans were the same for ages.

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Always waffled on about their style as they got relegated. They booed allardyce out of the place and now have bilic using allardyce players in a similar way but are they complaining about being top half? Nope

Lfc and style... pass and move blah blah... nobody drowned on about that under rafa cos he brought some sucess. Nobody drowned on about style as Dalglish played us to two cup finals and 7th in a poor season of football and some whined to the heavens he got sacked.

The point is style is just an excuse to bash a guy despite him being top scorer. I say give him and klopp time

 

Style simply means the way you play- everyone has one, and we can't not talk about it.
It has nothing to do with being stylish.

 

United cannt play with teh same "style" because the PL has drastically improved since United last dominated a league title. Nothing at all to do with style, Fergie used tactics not style, the Style is just a descriptor for the way they played and their tactics, but it's almost meaningless. UNited's fall has nothing to do with their style and everytihng to dfo with their tactics and playing staff \manager, training and preparation

Players have to have the right attributes and play the right way, which involves a lot of things, but it is labeled style, style means nothing in football. Literally, it's a word for fans and pundits, at club level it is about specifics not generic labels

 

Meh... if it means Klopps style that's one thing if it means lfc have some mythical way to play that's another.

I mean you know more than me that if it's lfc style then toshack and keegan could be brought up.

Is benteke really so immobile, dumb, lazy and all those insults hurled for zero reason that he makes toshack look like messi?

Serious point.

Paisley to Dalglish. . Clear differences.... to sourness. .. to Evans. .. very different... to houllier complete change bringing success back, to rafa, slightly different.... then the disastrous hodgson...

All are different approaches by different coaches. When lfc hired klopp and binned tod gers did they tell klopp oh you gotta play a style?

Nope.

Klopp will set up the way he thinks he will get success and if he's the genius he is reputed to be he will set up differently with different players at his disposal.

If he gers 4 players in January his set up could look entirely different but if he doesn't then he's got to get results with his players now.

He wants work ethic high press intense football. Rodgers twaddle db on about similar but never delivered. Rodgers believed you could only run for 20 mins. Klopp wants 90mins running. Rodgers pressed for 7 seconds, klopp wants the whole line pressing and looks at closing of channels sides attack in.

They are totally different but superficially the same style in theory.

 

With ronaldo Tevez rooney and berbatov you could not really ssybutd played two wingers. Ferguson adapted to the resources he had.

As I said it is meaningless and is a means to attack a player unwanted by some.... any excuse

 

I agree 100%

 

I think that Klopp's style is the only one that matters currently, because it's basically the manager that dictates the style of play.
Of course owners in tune with the ethos and tradition of a club may well appoint managers that suit it, but that's a different point.

You're right that different managers in the past have brought their own style, no argument from me there. My only point is that you said let's stop all this talk of style- well style describes the way the team- any team- plays and a discussion of it is integral to a discussion of the game, and you can't proscribe it.

 

That wasn't the point you made, you claimed style was something made up by supporters of mid-table teams like Spurs.

 

A top top new managerial candidate has emerged

 

Which it is... style is for losers.

If you said I preferred the football under Rodgers to under houllier fine but you are saying we've sone static style and it's all to then say that a certain player can't fit it

 

Example stoke

Long ball?

Pulis football = thuggish long ball
Hughes = passing

Next guy in who knows.

Stoke don't have a style that's static or club defining

 

According to this link Man Utd have only had Style since the end of the 2010/11 season, and not many like it

 

Moyes on the WUM

Probably looking to secure his legacy as the 2nd most successful Man Utd manager in the PL era

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35201617

"What Manchester United stand for is that they keep their managers, they've always supported their managers," Moyes told BT Sport

 

That's English clubs in general. The style and philosophy is usually defined by a director of football.

Whilst neither have a DOF, Soton and Swansea are good examples of having a philosophy of playing entertaining, technical football - this is what influences their decision when appointing a manager. It's consistent.

Of course, the aim is to win. But to say you need to chop and change every game is nonsense. You play to your own strengths - that's what big clubs do. And it goes back to having a Plan A - make it so strong that you rarely have to revert to a plan b.

 

Fraser Fyvie: Hibernian midfielder banned for simulation v Rangers
Hibernian midfielder Fraser Fyvie has been suspended for two matches for feigning injury in an incident with Rangers' Andy Halliday.

The Ibrox midfielder appeared to aim a kick at Fyvie before barging against his arm with his shoulder. The Hibs player reacted by clutching his face.

Halliday was sent off as a result and his appeal against the red card will be heard on 7 January.

Rangers won 4-2 to move three points ahead of Hibs in the Championship.

The Scottish FA compliance officer said Fyvie's actions caused referee Bobby Madden to make an error and offered the 22-year-old a two-game ban, which he opted not to contest.

Fyvie was ruled to have "committed an act of simulation in that you feigned that you had received a blow to the face or head" during Monday's game.

The former Aberdeen and Wigan player will miss two matches against Raith Rovers - a Championship meeting in Kirkcaldy on Saturday, then a Scottish Cup fourth-round meeting in Fife a week later.

Rangers subsequently lodged a claim of wrongful dismissal against Halliday's charge of violent conduct.




The FA dont do this in the PL do they?

 

I remember reading about this at the start of the season and I thought t was across England because I think there was a lower league player banned for similar thing earlier in the year.

Its a great idea, no reason why shouldn't be able to punish them retrospectively for something like that.

 

Pullis obviously close down the space, be aggressive and work your arse off and counter, well organised and drilled. You can label that with one word but it's just a word, nothing relative to what is actually the case.

Saying they had a defensive style tells you nothing, nothing at all as you can obviously high press, half press Klopp press or Barca press, high line and pack midfiled or not and two banks of four or, I mean the variable combinations are almost endless

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not fit to describe a player when deciding his worth

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34204326

Welling player suspended so is in England as well.

 

Ergo saying lfc have a style is bull.

Big men for lfc.

John toshack for one. Heskey in 2001played a huge part in our success. Crouch in 2006

I mean it's not that carroll is the only test case and why a big guy can't work for lfc.