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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by genjigonzales, Jun 23, 2011.

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  1. Kyle?

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    Sauber
    Kobayashi is better than senna
    Perez i'm still unsure of

    Williams
    Rubens is past it, so maybe senna could make an impact there. There would be a lot of press though, i mean look what happened the last time a senna drove for williams..
    Bruno is probably better than maldonado. I don't rate Maldo at all, i think he's a useless pay driver

    Force India
    Sutil is getting back to his best, so no chance for senna there
    Di Resta is a good prospect/

    The only logical place is williams, but i'm not sure they'll want to stir up all the bad press, for reasons i've already mentioned
     
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    Of course you assume none of those drivers move up. Im thinking more of 2012 than this year. I do though have a sad feeling that Bruno may never be in F1 again. As for the press yeah they would love it at first but they'd settle down. Hell he's at the lotus team at the moment.
     
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  3. Delete Me

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    After this year Kamui I reckon would be ready for the top flight, he's fighting against the Mercedes and Renaults for 7th place who have better cars overall. Out of the midfeild drivers he's doing the best (25 points), he has over double the points tally of Sutil (10 points).

    I do agree he does seem to have problems qualifying, I'm not sure if this is just because of the car or that he just prefers to be fighting in the pack. But he is still only 24, 2-3 years down the line he would improve his racecraft and could be tapping on the shoulders of the top 3 drivers.

    Maybe Red Bull would be the wrong team to go to, being expected to land it on the front row could be a big problem if he has to keep doing it, maybe it would be wiser to replace the likes of Massa, Jenson or Schumacher. We wouldn't want Kamui to be the next target on Helmut Marko's radar since Kamui is one of the good guys, he needs support just like Peter Sauber gave him, not a verbal war like Webber is getting.
     
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  4. Kyle?

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    True. Why the hell is Marko in charge of that program anyway? They've has 1 success.
     
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  5. Masanari

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    Senna beat Kobayashi in GP2 so I do not think you can say flat out Kobayashi is better than Senna, I am not saying Senna is better than Kobayashi I am just saying you can't judge him yet because unlike some of the drivers Senna beat in GP2 he has not had a chance in a half decent team yet in F1.
     
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  6. Delete Me

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    Not sure tbh, might of been that the young drivers wanted to sign with the "big teams" 7-8 years ago and not the Red Bull program. Daniel is looking good though, be interesting to see how he performs full time.
     
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  7. WestCoastBoogaloo

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  8. Kyle?

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    Marko will ruin him. Trust me.
     
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  9. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Pantano is not better than them all then?
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    this thread has been merged here.

    Thanks,
    El_B :police:

    EDIT: Dont know why im linking it because it will just take you back here again <doh>
    It was the sensible signing thread
     
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  11. WestCoastBoogaloo

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    I guess the whole thing regarding Webber/Red Bull is whether Buemi or Alguersuari are good enough to replace him. If they aren't and Red Bull get someone else, isn't that kind of like admitting that their young driver program isn't working? Or at least not to it's full potential?

    Buemi is still only 22 and Alguersuari is 21 so perhaps that's a little harsh. I don't know about anyone else but I tend to forget that Buemi started in the same season as Alguersuari, only he got the benefit of beginning the season rather than entering half way through it.

    I think that Kobi is likely to stay at Sauber as he had said in interviews that he wants to honour the contract he has. Having said that, if a team were to buy the contract out, I'm sure Sauber wouldn't say no to a bit of cash! For some reason I always have seen Kobi going to Ferrari rather than Red Bull.
     
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  12. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Well Red Bull are looking to sell STR so thats a bigger sign
     
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  13. WestCoastBoogaloo

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    Haha, yeah I'd forgotten about that. It's a sign they don't want to pay for two teams certainly. Is it a sign that their young driver program isn't working though?
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    You can't judge any F1 driver on their results or form in any other formula, as I recall until he sat in an F1 car those most connected to Frentzen and Schumacher rated Frentzen as the better.

    As to Kobay, I'd hate to see him go to Ferrari as he'd probably be forced to act as a number 2 like everyone who goes there seem to, love to see him in the RB.

    and RB selling STR? about time, personally think it's outrageous someone has 4 cars on the grid, especially after abu last year where they were blatantly told to let Webber through.
     
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  15. El_Bando

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    Red Bull want a reasonable buyer or they wont sell. I seem to remember Berger had first dibs but didnt want to or could afford to buy it and then later left. Though he was in the Red Bull garage last weekend. Random Return?

    I personally want Paul Stoddart to buy it back and reincarnate Minardi!!
     
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  16. Masanari

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    Maybe we should all pitch in and buy Toro Rosso and create Not606 GP.
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    yes, that way no one will pick on HRT any more as there will be a much worse team on track.
     
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  18. Delete Me

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    Very true, if you asked me 2 years ago who would do better, kamui or hulkenberg I would of picked the obvious one.

    Just because you win everything in the lower series doesn't mean you will be the best driver when you enter f1, teams have ways to make you improve your race craft.
     
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  19. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I think we had a thread about if we owned our own F1 team before. Cant find the link.

    Is STR worth buying?
     
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  20. BrightLampShade

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    I'm happy to pay £5 a month and be a pay driver <ok>
     
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