11pm 2/9/13 - deadline day thread

[C19RK73]

For me the above date and time signals what could be the make or break point in our season.

We simply have too many players who for one reason or another are not cutting the mustard.

We all have differring opinions on players.

Who's to go?

Vaughan, bardo, ji, sess, wickham on loan? If there is genuine interest from lazio in larsson then tara narl for me.

N'daiye i still dont get

Graham is missing chances at hull so not bothered about him

11 new faces and only 3 start??? So the squad has been strengthened but our main weak areas havnt.

I hope to god its in the pipeline because if its not we could be well and truly fooked.

We were well on top yesterday when we conceded that penner and think without it we would have won.

Anyway heres this mornings links, loans, loans and more loans, not the answer imo, but hey ho


@GFN_France
Sunderland have made a loan offer for Faouzi Ghoulam: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...torino-or-saint-etienne/#.UiMFk0pr9DQ.twitter … ‪#‎ASSE‬ ‪#‎SAFC‬


Sunderland boss Paolo Di Canio wants Manchester United left-back Alex Buttner on loan. (Sunday Express)


@oluwashina
Sunderland are prepared to sign Algeria defender Faouzi Ghoulam on a season-long loan from St Etienne. ‪#‎QPR‬ are also keen. ~ L'Equipe ‪#‎safc‬

Liverpool's Fabio Borini is a loan target for Sunderland (Sunday People)

 

[SAFC_Derry]

PDC agree with most of it lad especially the bit about Alfie? We still need a physical presence in CM dare I say it an Alfie type of player! We also need a LB and another striker as I can't see JI featuring. I disagree with the bit about us being on top just before the pen yesterday. If they had better finishers they would of scored on a couple of breaks.

 

[C19RK73]

PDC agree with most of it lad especially the bit about Alfie? We still need a physical presence in CM dare I say it an Alfie type of player! We also need a LB and another striker as I can't see JI featuring. I disagree with the bit about us being on top just before the pen yesterday. If they had better finishers they would of scored on a couple of breaks.

Aye i suppose, but i felt we could have went on to win it, as soon as they scored and we were down to 10 i lost all hope. It was s horrible last 1/4hr

 

[grandpops]

For me the above date and time signals what could be the make or break point in our season.

We simply have too many players who for one reason or another are not cutting the mustard.

We all have differring opinions on players.

Who's to go?

Vaughan, bardo, ji, sess, wickham on loan? If there is genuine interest from lazio in larsson then tara narl for me.

N'daiye i still dont get

Graham is missing chances at hull so not bothered about him

11 new faces and only 3 start??? So the squad has been strengthened but our main weak areas havnt.

I hope to god its in the pipeline because if its not we could be well and truly fooked.

We were well on top yesterday when we conceded that penner and think without it we would have won.

Anyway heres this mornings links, loans, loans and more loans, not the answer imo, but hey ho


@GFN_France
Sunderland have made a loan offer for Faouzi Ghoulam: http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.co...torino-or-saint-etienne/#.UiMFk0pr9DQ.twitter … ‪#‎ASSE‬ ‪#‎SAFC‬


Sunderland boss Paolo Di Canio wants Manchester United left-back Alex Buttner on loan. (Sunday Express)


@oluwashina
Sunderland are prepared to sign Algeria defender Faouzi Ghoulam on a season-long loan from St Etienne. ‪#‎QPR‬ are also keen. ~ L'Equipe ‪#‎safc‬

Liverpool's Fabio Borini is a loan target for Sunderland (Sunday People)

I agree loans are not the answer but they are an alternative.

Yes we`ve brought in a lot of players but we`ve also missed out on some decent signings. If those gaps are filled by loans then so be it.

There is still time this window (just), but, if not, then the January window has a big part to play.

 

[C19RK73]

I agree loans are not the answer but they are an alternative.

Yes we`ve brought in a lot of players but we`ve also missed out on some decent signings. If those gaps are filled by loans then so be it.

There is still time this window (just), but, if not, then the January window has a big part to play.

Like i say 11pm 2moro is key, the way are fixtures are january could be too late, me must act now

 

[rokermicko]

Part of the undoing of Bruce was when his loans returned.

 

[Chaos-Or-Cornelius]

I say we need at least one high quality attacking CM (Perhaps Ki is that) however with the tough upcoming fixture list and the option of Ki returning to Swansea in January just as our fixtures become easier, is a concern for me. Therefore we need a permanent CM of high quality.

I think we need another high quality striker alongside Fletcher with Altidore possibly on the bench.

An attacking full back...

3 more quality players to make us a real premier league squad. It will appear to me to be highly bizarre to make so many changes without putting the final touchs into position, highly bizzare.

 

[Poyet's Eleven]

I'd sell Vaughan, Ji and Bardsley if we can

Bring in a forward, a lb and a cm if we can

 

[grandpops]

I say we need at least one high quality attacking CM (Perhaps Ki is that) however with the tough upcoming fixture list and the option of Ki returning to Swansea in January just as our fixtures become easier, is a concern for me. Therefore we need a permanent CM of high quality.

I think we need another high quality striker alongside Fletcher with Altidore possibly on the bench.

An attacking full back...

3 more quality players to make us a real premier league squad. It will appear to me to be highly bizarre to make so many changes without putting the final touchs into position, highly bizzare.

I think PDC knows exactly what we need and attempts have been made to fill those positions but, for whatever reason, haven`t come off.

I know it`s a stop gap answer but I don`t see he has an alternative to loanees.

There`s still time this window yet though.

 

[grandpops]

I'd sell Vaughan, Ji and Bardsley if we can

Bring in a forward, a lb and a cm if we can

But would anybody want them?

 

[Poyet's Eleven]

I'd sell Vaughan, Ji and Bardsley if we can

Bring in a forward, a lb and a cm if we can

But would anybody want them?

Hence the if we can

Plenty of interest in Ji earlier so hopefully we could get rid of him

Bardsley is gonna run down his contract imo. The ****ing bastard

I reckon we could sell Vaughan to a championship team

 

[grandpops]

Hence the if we can

Plenty of interest in Ji earlier so hopefully we could get rid of him

Bardsley is gonna run down his contract imo. The ****ing bastard

I reckon we could sell Vaughan to a championship team

High earners though aren`t they? (don`t know about Ji).
Probably means we`re stuck with them.

 

[Poyet's Eleven]

Hence the if we can

Plenty of interest in Ji earlier so hopefully we could get rid of him

Bardsley is gonna run down his contract imo. The ****ing bastard

I reckon we could sell Vaughan to a championship team

High earners though aren`t they? (don`t know about Ji).
Probably means we`re stuck with them.

Yeah sadly

Both in the last year of their contracts, along with Ji and some others I would imagine

Which is good, we'll lose a lot more of the ****e from previous eras this summer which is why it's key Di Canio is given more time imo

 

[Nordic]

I'd sell Vaughan, Ji and Bardsley if we can

Bring in a forward, a lb and a cm if we can

same.....

 

[C19RK73]

Deadline day looms, and despite a flurry of early arrivals this summer, Sunderland look as likely as anyone to be busy.

Why Has It Come To This?

This is a question I suspect many are asking themselves. 'Why of why have we left ourselves at the mercy of a deadline day scramble when we have known what has needed to be done for months?!' etc. Judging by Paolo Di Canio's comments this weekend, it appears he is one of them.

It is certainly frustrating. However, it is simply a facet of modern football that the longer you hold your nerve the better value and deals you can find. Players who weren't available at all 2 months ago are suddenly players clubs are desperate to move on to help push through their own business.

A risky game of brinksmanship, admittedly, but one with a potential for high rewards.

What Comes In

Left Back: Apparently, these exist. Sunderland have been trying to sign one all summer and in fairness not having one right now is more down to bad fortune than bad planning.

Benjamin Mendy was prised away at the last moment by his dream move to Marseille, Lucas Orban agreed to join and then changed the goal posts by asking for more money, and others have been deemed unable to provide anything like value.

Manchester United's Alexander Buttner has been suggested as a loan target but any deal there would likely hinge upon the champions' pursuit of Leighton Baines. Even then, it is worth noting that following the arrival of Ki Sung-yeung, Sunderland can only take one more domestic loan.

One to watch could be Faouzi Ghoulam. The 22-year-old Algerian international is keen to be leave Saint-Étienne and has just turned down a move to Torino.

Striker: Di Canio has stressed his happiness with this area of his squad all summer, but that was before Stephane Sessegnon's head turned to the Middle East, his hefty breach of discipline, and Ji Dong-won's pretty cowardly performances so far.

Fabio Borini's name has cropped up, and as a loan target he could well fit the profile. He is young, has experience of the British game, and established himself in Italy where he forged a fine reputation for himself at Roma. With Liverpool intent on doing plenty of business themselves, the link could well hold water.

The name of Moussa Sow has also been mentioned in Turkey. Fenerbache are reeling from their Champions League exit and Europa League expulsion, so could well move on the talented Senegal international. Sunderland are said to be interested, but so are plenty others. Newcastle and Stoke have been just as strongly linked and you wonder if such an expensive signing with be sanctioned with Steven Fletcher and Jozy Altidore seemingly earmarked for a partnership.

Central Midfield: Despite the arrival of Ki, central midfield remains an area that can be significantly improved. Good teams tend to start with a quality central midfield and build around it.

There could still be a future for Lee Cattermole and should a left back sign, Jack Colback will come back into contention for the position, but it still looks weak.

This one may well depend on who can be moved out, but should an Antonio Nocherino or Zdravko Kuzmanović become available for a last minute move, it could make a huge difference to Sunderland's lagging season.

What Goes Out

Stephane Sessegnon: Given his wages and the new Financial Fair Play restrictions, moving out the Beninian magician may hold the key to unlocking the whole day in terms of creating room for arrivals. It is worth noting, however, that the transfer window in Qatar closes later than the one in Europe, so even if he is here at the end of the day it doesn't necessarily mean he is staying.

David Vaughan: It was reported that Vaughan told journalists at Selhurst Park that a move is 'very much a possibility' and he does look vulnerable. He has one year left on his contract and just doesn't seem equipped to contribute anything to Paolo Di Canio's favoured system.

Craig Gardner: The Brummie missed the game this weekend with a groin injury, but you can't rule anything out at this stage. It is possible there is a move in the works that no one wanted to put at risk by injury. Like Vaughan, he has one year left on his contract and has been repeatedly linked with a move closer to the Midlands.

Lee Cattermole: It has been no secret that Cattermole's wage is considered well out of whack with his contribution and value, so a move is far from beyond the realms of possibility. However, you struggle to see much interest for him out there and he probably looks unlikely to leave at this point.

Phil Bardsley: I don't think we are that lucky. The little leech will almost certainly still be sucking a living from the clubs vains come Tuesday.

Ji Dong-won: Di Canio has publicly defended the Korean and is a big fan of his ability. Unfortunately, ability isn't worth a thing if he can't find some courage and heart from somewhere. The unusual nature of his substitution at Palace - noted by Sky Sports - could allude to a falling out which prompts a move to Germany.

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

Heard you guys are possibly interested on Borini on loan. Could be a good move. He's not ben brilliant while with us, but has been out injured a lot and never had a constant run in the first team. Has decent enough pace and excellent movement. Think he just needs a run of games to get his confidence back and once he get's a couple could easily get 10 goals in the league this year.

Doubt Rodgers would want to sell him at the end of it though having been one of his first signings and the fact he's still young enough to develop and become a good player for us.

 

[grandpops]

Deadline day looms, and despite a flurry of early arrivals this summer, Sunderland look as likely as anyone to be busy.

Why Has It Come To This?

This is a question I suspect many are asking themselves. 'Why of why have we left ourselves at the mercy of a deadline day scramble when we have known what has needed to be done for months?!' etc. Judging by Paolo Di Canio's comments this weekend, it appears he is one of them.

It is certainly frustrating. However, it is simply a facet of modern football that the longer you hold your nerve the better value and deals you can find. Players who weren't available at all 2 months ago are suddenly players clubs are desperate to move on to help push through their own business.

A risky game of brinksmanship, admittedly, but one with a potential for high rewards.

What Comes In

Left Back: Apparently, these exist. Sunderland have been trying to sign one all summer and in fairness not having one right now is more down to bad fortune than bad planning.

Benjamin Mendy was prised away at the last moment by his dream move to Marseille, Lucas Orban agreed to join and then changed the goal posts by asking for more money, and others have been deemed unable to provide anything like value.

Manchester United's Alexander Buttner has been suggested as a loan target but any deal there would likely hinge upon the champions' pursuit of Leighton Baines. Even then, it is worth noting that following the arrival of Ki Sung-yeung, Sunderland can only take one more domestic loan.

One to watch could be Faouzi Ghoulam. The 22-year-old Algerian international is keen to be leave Saint-Étienne and has just turned down a move to Torino.

Striker: Di Canio has stressed his happiness with this area of his squad all summer, but that was before Stephane Sessegnon's head turned to the Middle East, his hefty breach of discipline, and Ji Dong-won's pretty cowardly performances so far.

Fabio Borini's name has cropped up, and as a loan target he could well fit the profile. He is young, has experience of the British game, and established himself in Italy where he forged a fine reputation for himself at Roma. With Liverpool intent on doing plenty of business themselves, the link could well hold water.

The name of Moussa Sow has also been mentioned in Turkey. Fenerbache are reeling from their Champions League exit and Europa League expulsion, so could well move on the talented Senegal international. Sunderland are said to be interested, but so are plenty others. Newcastle and Stoke have been just as strongly linked and you wonder if such an expensive signing with be sanctioned with Steven Fletcher and Jozy Altidore seemingly earmarked for a partnership.

Central Midfield: Despite the arrival of Ki, central midfield remains an area that can be significantly improved. Good teams tend to start with a quality central midfield and build around it.

There could still be a future for Lee Cattermole and should a left back sign, Jack Colback will come back into contention for the position, but it still looks weak.

This one may well depend on who can be moved out, but should an Antonio Nocherino or Zdravko Kuzmanović become available for a last minute move, it could make a huge difference to Sunderland's lagging season.

What Goes Out

Stephane Sessegnon: Given his wages and the new Financial Fair Play restrictions, moving out the Beninian magician may hold the key to unlocking the whole day in terms of creating room for arrivals. It is worth noting, however, that the transfer window in Qatar closes later than the one in Europe, so even if he is here at the end of the day it doesn't necessarily mean he is staying.

David Vaughan: It was reported that Vaughan told journalists at Selhurst Park that a move is 'very much a possibility' and he does look vulnerable. He has one year left on his contract and just doesn't seem equipped to contribute anything to Paolo Di Canio's favoured system.

Craig Gardner: The Brummie missed the game this weekend with a groin injury, but you can't rule anything out at this stage. It is possible there is a move in the works that no one wanted to put at risk by injury. Like Vaughan, he has one year left on his contract and has been repeatedly linked with a move closer to the Midlands.

Lee Cattermole: It has been no secret that Cattermole's wage is considered well out of whack with his contribution and value, so a move is far from beyond the realms of possibility. However, you struggle to see much interest for him out there and he probably looks unlikely to leave at this point.

Phil Bardsley: I don't think we are that lucky. The little leech will almost certainly still be sucking a living from the clubs vains come Tuesday.

Ji Dong-won: Di Canio has publicly defended the Korean and is a big fan of his ability. Unfortunately, ability isn't worth a thing if he can't find some courage and heart from somewhere. The unusual nature of his substitution at Palace - noted by Sky Sports - could allude to a falling out which prompts a move to Germany.

That`s a fairly accurate summary imo.

 

[C19RK73]

Heard you guys are possibly interested on Borini on loan. Could be a good move. He's not ben brilliant while with us, but has been out injured a lot and never had a constant run in the first team. Has decent enough pace and excellent movement. Think he just needs a run of games to get his confidence back and once he get's a couple could easily get 10 goals in the league this year.

Doubt Rodgers would want to sell him at the end of it though having been one of his first signings and the fact he's still young enough to develop and become a good player for us.

reports are saying its done mate, 1 year loan with option to buy £8m

 

[Pretty Please]

reports are saying its done mate, 1 year loan with option to buy £8m

Link to the "reports" please!

Unless it's another forum.

 

[C19RK73]

Link to the "reports" please!

Unless it's another forum.

i do my own research you know, if i say its been seen its been seen, have you not seen my pirlo links