" The fact that Rodgers saw fit to send him out on loan only tells us that he didn't feel he was ready, or that maybe his head wasn't right; possibly his attitude. " so basically he was nothing special then Who mentioned he lacked ability? not me thats for sure ,never let the truth get in the way knackerman eh? Just because you interpretate a statement differently doesnt mean that it is factually incorrect/correct i said he was nothing special (and by the way the manager thought so too) how do you know what my meaning of nothing special encompasses ?? The facts are there for all to see knackerman, Kemy wasnt up to it last season,if he was he would have been part of the team,the fact that he can command a place this year tells me how nothing special he was last year,the kick up the arse he got by going out on loan obviously worked.But there is no mention of you saying that the manager got it right by doing this ,what we hear from you is that he had everything to prosper last year,did he really? like you know because in your opinion he played well in a few games ,why arnt you the chief scout ?? And to compare a 17yr old Lampard and 19yr old struridge with a seasoned pro like Kemy RE loan, tells me how far off the boil with your post you are.Kemy wasnt signed to go out on loan he wasnt a young inexperienced player he was ready made for CCC football he never quite applied himself did he? Why dont YOU admit you are wrong? if he was as amazing as you thought he was then he wouldnt have dissapeared from the team and get sent on loan to palace As you said ,some wriggle and thats what your doing by bringing up the form of a player from last year(which is completly irrelevent to this thread) trying to be clever is fine,but get your facts straight knackerman " maybe his head wasn't right; possibly his attitude" but according to you he was world class make your mind up FFS!! I must stress to other posters that this is something i said about Kemy last season, i think the facts spoke for themselves as the manager sent himon loan and he didnt really feature , knackerman seems to think i got it wrong,well if i got it wrong Brenden rodgers did too! I I will gladly admit to getting things wrong,we all do on here but to admit to being wrong when clearly im not is just daft!! but if i was... "Me and Brenden rodgers got it wrong about Kemy knackerman,we are very sorry and bow down to your superior knowledge about footballers,if only Brenden could find a way of getting rid of curtis and pascoe then your incredible eye for a player could be put to better use, looking back i think it was a mistake to send kemy on loan,even though he couldnt get in the team ahead of dobbie,gower,britton,allen and orlandi he was probably on a par with Ronaldo, we just didnt have your eyes to see!! One swallow doesnt make a summer but it does in your world i see, Kemy had one swallow and not a summer. I know you dont like it when im right,i will try and be wrong in the future then you will have something to pin on me, until then maybe try living in the present and not the past ?? Coming soon .Norway jack gets proved right about Dobbie having no impact in the premier league PS Knackered if you want to keep this "see who can piss the highest "contest going just take it to PM, im sure most other posters are getting fed up of decent threads getting constantly derailed by you,especially since you returned.
God you don't half bite. Oh so easy. Your the one putting up War and Peace. Stopped reading half way. Bored ****less. You're right about threads going off topic though. Maybe if you and others didn't spout 'I told you so' on threads that relate to our £8.2M debt then this wouldn't happen. As Scott said the other day you don't half ask for it. Wriggle wriggle. Fin. (no doubt after you have the last word - you won't be able to help yourself). I don't do PMs. I prefer pulling you up publicly.
Scottswan the fantastic moderator said what.... hope your not trying to crawl up his arse Knackerman?? Bet DPJ is seething, he cant even say his name without somebody typing "and you a moderator.."
spouting "i told you so" when did i ever say that? yet more lies from the knackerman, stop making up stuff and telling lies your nose will get bigger (and it must be really big by now)
Ahem.... My point is that your track record doesn't make you any better at picking players than our scouts and that hindsight is a wonderful thing. Don't know why you're resorting to insults. No need really.
I love the way you re-edit your posts not to look silly, nice trick doesnt fool anybody though Prefer fabricating stories about me publically is a more comfortable fit. Yes i will take the last word,its the only way to make sure nothing gets twisted by you
Oh dear...try to keep up. You really aren't that bright. OK I'll explain slowly.... 1:You asked "i told you so" when did i ever say that?" 2:I replied with your direct quote that says Beattie "was obviously" going to be a waste of money and "was always going to a waste of money". I'll explain my point again. Hindsight is wonderful and some fans really think they are something special when it comes to picking players for the Swans and think they know better than the Club. We took a chance on Beattie and it didn't work out. That's the way it goes. I'd like to think our lot get it right more often than not. Don't forget Beattie scored some important goals too. Unfortunately you're the type of 'fan' that loves to jump on the bandwagon and criticise every time things don't work out or when (for instance) we lose a game, and you're getting a reputation on here for being that kind of poster. Casual was right. If you and DPJ were that good you'd have given up your day jobs. Not my thing at all, but takes all sorts I suppose.
Point is ive never stated anything at all about my track record on players, you have !! What i said was Beatie was injury prone and a waste of money-FACT and Kemy was NOTHING SPECIAL in season 2010-2011 I really dont know what point your trying to make, i dont think you know yourself, talking about track records of picking players FFS!! are you Martinez in disguise ?? Stop trying to be clever and concentrate on the present, trying to prove what i said and even what i was thinking over a year ago is the meddlings of a madman Best laugh is you quoted something i said about Kemy a year ago and ended up looking stupid, now your quoting what i said about Beatie like that is wrong!! well i have news for you, BEATIE WAS AN INJURY PRONE PLAYER BEFORE WE BOUGHT HIM!! Think you are getting confused in your old age. Facts by knackerman - Black is indeed White because Norway jack said Black was Black
Its not hindsight though dummy ! everybody told us beatie was a sick note betty at the time and if fans of other clubs knew this surely our club knew this ?
There were two large articles put up by Baggy posters, that spelt it all out, how useless beattie was, maybe you missed it, but it wasn't hind sight as you put it, because the articles were put up before the transfer went through, this was on the old BBC sight might I add, so get your facts right, many of us were not happy at having Beattie here, much like Jager and myself, voiced our view on Lita, not being a good signing? It's not rocket science, I wouldn't have gone after Lita, but Rodgers did, for whatever reason, maybe he saw something I didn't, but there's nothing in Lita's game that interest me, and that's my view! By the way casual, I'm not in the slightest bit interested in becoming A premiership manager, but you don't need to be, to spot a good or bad player, get a perspective man.........
Oh i see, if you check recent posts of mine i think you will find that i was supportive of beatie all the way through his career here, even up to a few months ago when he was playing well in the reserves (yes i saw those games too) i raised the point that maybe he deserves a place on the bench as a reward, so your argument falls down there im afraid ,never mind try again
Knackerman- Are you running away because you have got it wrong again? Im too stupid, ok fair enough, stop mis quoting things i say and stop telling lies and then you maybe wouldnt have to run away name calling as you leave Ive asked you to take this PM but you wont so unfortunatly this thread along with the others now gets de railed, when you tie yourself in knots you leave, well done as i said "you ve hears of vlad the impaler, we have knackered jack the thread de-railer" Not a happy place since you came back thats for sure
You don't half talk some rubbish Knackered Aussie, why don't you go and check the facts, but you already know it was not hindsight, as there where Baggies on the old BBC 606 sight warning us what a donkey Beattie was, and that went up before we had signed Beattie, so leave out the fiction regarding Hindsight dear, and stick to the facts. Lets bring it up to date, Lita was rumoured to be coming to the liberty, and both Jager and myself voiced our clear disappointment in this possible signing, now it's seems he's in transfer talks out of the Liberty, not hindsight at all, just some of us know a good player!................
My favourite bit is when knackered says="some fans really think they are somthing special when it comes to picking players for the swans and think they know better" coming from a guy that thought he knew better when he disagreed with Kemy going out on loan, and roundly critizised thr club for sending dobbie on loan, bit of double standards there me thinks Of course everybody is entitled to their views right or wrong, opinions on players is what its all about
Knackerman- Are you running away because you have got it wrong again? Im too stupid, ok fair enough, stop mis quoting things i say and stop telling lies and then you maybe wouldnt have to run away name calling as you leave does it all the time norway....... he never gets anything right on what we say, he makes things up on what he wants us to say and believes its true...idiot