But then I'd say, if she's only bringing in £120m... - Our debts were around what £40m? - The training ground cost about £30m - £50m spent on players She wouldn't be seeing any of that income personally, if that's what she does. However by allowing the players to go and following the method stated above by myself, she would see the value/price come down. So if she couldn't get people to meet her previous asking price, this approach wouldn't work unless she creamed off some of the money for herself (and it would need to be a significant amount) and either didn't clear the debt, pay for the training facilities (which obviously can't be it) or she won't invest in the first team (it's feasible but I really do not see this happening) So again, it doesn't quite add up.
The great thing about ITKers is that most of them are fed information by someone bitter at being cut out of the club. This could be kosher but there's also a high probability it is bile.
Agreed. For the balance, what Steve Grant (owner of SaintsWeb) posted in reply is near enough exactly what I have been told. Worth noting so we can understand where people are coming from, that Steve is close and said to be chummy with Jordan Sibley. Here is Steve's info... Cortese's departure - multiple reasons (some of which can't be specified as I'd get in all sorts of ****), although it's fairly well known that he put up resistance to ANY control of spending from KL. A suicide mission if ever there was one. Finances - correct with the exception of NC not leaking stuff to the press. He was all over both the Mail (Neil Ashton) and BBC (Ben Smith). Possible sale of club - it's feasible, but the method makes no sense. If there are no buyers at whatever asking price has been set, you either drop the asking price or make the product MORE attractive for the price, not less! Selling the top players arguably drops the value of the club by more than the fees received because of the perception that the club has momentum in the wrong direction. Lallana - feasible, but it's almost the complete opposite of what I'd heard, with the exception of the Man United stuff. He'd wanted out for months, Clattenburg was essentially right - having been away on international duty in November, he believed he'd "made it" and deserved to be at a club that elevated him to the same status as the England regulars. He wasn't entirely thrilled with being subbed off relatively early every game either. Players - NC had lined up a deal with West Ham to sell Rickie Lambert for £7m in January. That deal was hastily pulled as soon as NC walked. Overall lack of communication - certainly true, but for most players, what "communication" are they expecting from the board? Daily briefings with an update of how many shirts with their name on have been sold? Over the summer, players are rightly left to enjoy their own time and not be pestered by club employees (I'd be pretty ****ed off if my boss was phoning me with updates while I was on holiday - the clue's in the name). The only ones who should have expected to have heard something are those who would expect new contract offers in the pipeline - Fonte and Cork being the two prime examples - but I don't see what the fuss was about over Fonte supposedly having received his in writing. I'd want any contract offer I was going to sign in writing before committing to anything. The noise from Alan Cork on Twitter suggests Cork hasn't received an offer at all, let alone an offer that was then withdrawn. I can't say I was ever particularly surprised by that towards the end of last season, it always appeared to me as though Pochettino was never quite convinced with JC, and as he had long since decided he was leaving, why would he care about putting it to the board himself? Pochettino - he'd decided he was off around Christmas. As mental as it sounds, NC was going to sack him in December around the time we had that bad run of injuries and results which tempered our great start to the season. He was talked out of it by a number of senior players, but MP felt he didn't have the trust of NC any longer, so decided he was off, and as the rest of the season wore on, made it very clear what his plan was to many of the players, despite NC's departure in the meantime. He basically advised them all to move on as they may not get another opportunity, so naturally they all got onto their agents and now we have the carnage we see before us today. MP was offered a new deal, and it had been on the table for 2-3 months before he went to Spurs - coincidentally it was offering exactly the same salary as he is now earning at White Hart Lane. Koeman - from people who know him, he will not tolerate players who don't want to play for him. If anyone doesn't want to play for him, they can do one, and he'll bring in replacements who DO want to do so. Given his track record and status in the game, we shouldn't be short of players come the start of the season. Summary - clearly the business has been done the wrong way around, replacements should have been signed before the others were let go, and that falls on the board to carry the can, and KL will have to accept that we'll be spending more for most of our signings than we anticipated as a result.
I'd not be surprised if that's pretty much spot on. EDIT - though what Steve thingy says above would also make sense. Conclusion - we don't really have any idea, so let's wait until the end of the window! Either way, Koeman has a mighty job to do, but wow it'll make his reputation if he does it well.
And now the links are for our own double swoops. Only they are on loan. So, lets loan in enough stop gap players and keep the 100m in the bank. Yes I know its the Star but it makes sense. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...hp?51167-The-mess-we-re-in/page2#.U9blcYCSzzw
That won't happen, because you can only sign one player on loan from another Premier League club during the season. I know it's really, really hard to put faith in something - but the signings are coming. I'm certain there is one not too far off. (Well duh, obviously DTLW, we've got to sign someone - haven't we?!) - (Well obviously, but still there will be a few signings of good standard)
we're getting lucy pinder in on loan? well she's a fan of the club. her and ings up front would make a formidable threesome. i mean trio.
I think that link should go to the good news thread! Fixed link - http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...oop-after-Liverpool-Man-Utd-and-Arsenal-raids
Or conversely, are fed things by people still within the club who want to advance a particular narrative. Whether positive or negative, sources aren't feeding people things out of the goodness of their hearts...they're using them as mouthpieces.
So, now I'm relieved to hear that we arent signing players : ) I'm looking forward to seeing who comes in the door almost as much as I'm concerned about whos going out of it.
Undoubtedly. But there are also people like Guan who clearly are speaking to someone fairly high up the food chain. Any information from any source, within or without the club, is spun.
Everything hinges on Koeman IMO. If he was lied to or mislead during his appointment he may decide to walk. I dont believe that he is instructing players to leave - he'd be shooting himself in the face. And I doubt he was told they would be going because 'we're not a selling club and we're determined to hang onto our players'. If he was hired as someone who can squeeze something out of nothing they definately hired the right man.
If I was Koeman I'd be asking current players if they are in some kind of mourning, or are they looking to the future with this club. It is currently in one of the strongest positions it has ever been. It has more ready spare cash than most of the Premier League put together, at this point. If the players he is talking to can't see past Cortese and Pochettino, then probably the best thing for them is to go, and stop being a drag back to a positive attitude at the club. One bottle of rather nice Italian Red has restored my usual positive attitude. I think I'm pretty much unshakeable from here on in. Trivia: I think it's cute that the colour of my VFR is officially Italian Red. Suits me down to the wheels.
There a few more pleasant experiences than sitting in the Chianti hills in Tuscany, with a local red, some fresh bread and olives, a plate of cured meats and a good book. In other news, yes, I think that's exactly what Koeman is doing. Good luck to him - he could make himself the next managerial genius.
I kind of like Koeman's approach of 'cut anyone who doesn't want to be here and build my own team'. I mean, hell, it's really risky and some would argue it's not a good idea, but if he has a clear out, builds a new team, gets us playing well and doing well in the league and then pushes us on next summer, I will have so much more respect for him than I have had for any other recent Saints managers.
Oh don't I know it.. I have it on reasonably good authority that my family hail from that very region. Could have come from a worse place. And having given myself some space and time to think clearly, that is what I think he would be saying. And fair play to him for it. I'm not holding out major hopes for next season - we'll see how we go. But the optimism is coming back, however many players want to jump ship.
Sure. Guan, K-Billy, Stevegrant, all getting agenda driven information from the club. Not sure about Monk. Can't remember if anything he said was anything more than informative.
