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I think 15th or 16th.

We should improve on our start but I can't see us not being involved in a relegation struggle.

Provided we stay up we need three next level players (in the defence) to be able to get to mid table next season.The midfield and attack look ok. We're not too far off having a decent squad and three defenders would see us safe.

If we get them in during the January window we should be safe.
 
Merson is no friend of Sunderland, but he is not alone in thinking this way, the sooner we are out of the bottom three the better, but it could take a while yet to get over this bad start we have had.
 
Stat time!

Take comfort in Merson's previous efforts

Merson's 14/15 relegation picks: Burnley, Leicester and West Brom
Merson's 13/14 relegation picks: Cardiff, Hull and Crystal Palace
Merson's 12/13 relegation picks: West Brom, Southampton, Swansea (also had Reading as surprise package, only relegated by 12 points)

2 out of 9 isn't even pundit worthy. Don't worry
 
We've narrowly escaped for a few seasons, got tonked by relegation rivals in the first two games, not won a game. That's the truth of the situation. If that was another team I'd think they were likely to drop.
 
I bought a light bulb for 2d in 1962 and put it in my bathroom. After 53 years it's still there. Now that's what I call value for money. (unfortunately, it popped in 1964 but otherwise it's alright)

How the **** can you still string a sensible sentence together at your age without drooling?
 
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This is what the bookies think:

Premier league top 4 finish:
Villa 100/1
Bournemouth 100/1
Newcastle 100/1
Norwich 1000/1
Watford 1000/1
Sunderland 1500/1

Premier league top 10 finish:
West Brom 9/2
Villa 15/2
Norwich 8/1
Watford 9/1
Sunderland 28/1

Relegation:
Sunderland 8/15
Watford 5/4
Norwich 13/8
Villa 2/1
Bournemouth 2/1
West Brom 3/1

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The bookies don't even go us a fighting chance, we are already down to them.
 
This is what the bookies think:

Premier league top 4 finish:
Villa 100/1
Bournemouth 100/1
Newcastle 100/1
Norwich 1000/1
Watford 1000/1
Sunderland 1500/1

Premier league top 10 finish:
West Brom 9/2
Villa 15/2
Norwich 8/1
Watford 9/1
Sunderland 28/1

Relegation:
Sunderland 8/15
Watford 5/4
Norwich 13/8
Villa 2/1
Bournemouth 2/1
West Brom 3/1

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The bookies don't even go us a fighting chance, we are already down to them.

Let's prove the bastards wrong then ehh?
 
Wtf is 2d?

Two (old) pence.

It used to be £ s d where 12 pence was a shilling and 20 shillings were a pound.

1 new penny is worth 2.4 old pennies.

My first job (at Baum's the chemist retailer which used to be where the SOL is now) paid £2/10/6 for a 40 hour week, that is about £2.51 in current currency. 6p an hour. (But we were 'appy in those days)

Now cue all the jokes about me being old.
 
Two (old) pence.

It used to be £ s d where 12 pence was a shilling and 20 shillings were a pound.

1 new penny is worth 2.4 old pennies.

My first job (at Baum's the chemist retailer which used to be where the SOL is now) paid £2/10/6 for a 40 hour week, that is about £2.51 in current currency. 6p an hour. (But we were 'appy in those days)

Now cue all the jokes about me being old.

I bet that job was still better than all those chimneys you had to climb up when you were a kid!