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Sunbeam-Tiger said:
So I take it you've checked with the club to make sure you've not infringed any intellectual property rights or copyrights ?
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Make your mind up, which argument do you want to go with?

I take it you've given up on trying to assert that having the words Hull City AFC on a Hull City AFC shirt would spoil it. Probably for the best.

We're confident there's no issue with us doing this.
 
PLT said:
Make your mind up, which argument do you want to go with?

I take it you've given up on trying to assert that having the words Hull City AFC on a Hull City AFC shirt would spoil it. Probably for the best.

We're confident there's no issue with us doing this.
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So I'll take that as a no then !!
 
HullCitySupportersTrust said:
Want the name back on the shirt?

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Hull City Supporters' Trust will soon be offering fans the opportunity to buy a shirt with the club's name on it.

Just one of a number of initiatives we'll be implementing to reverse the rebrand.
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And this is supporting the club - how?
 
PLT said:
Make your mind up, which argument do you want to go with?

I take it you've given up on trying to assert that having the words Hull City AFC on a Hull City AFC shirt would spoil it. Probably for the best.

We're confident there's no issue with us doing this.
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Despite your inane opening line Sunbeam, I'll answer the question for you. No, it doesn't. It would if it was on the badge or touching the badge in some way and then it was being sold.
 
Hull city afc(Kempton) said:
The shirts will have to be bought from Hull City.
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For that reason alone I'm dead against this.

I'd rather nobody bought the shirts and the club got hit in the pocket. Where's the incentive for the club to stop this inane rebranding if ****ers are just gonna buy the shirt anyway?

A better idea would be to do what Blackpool and Newcastle fans are doing and releasing a completely different shirt.
 
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Lincoln Tiger said:
Despite your inane opening line Sunbeam, I'll answer the question for you. No, it doesn't. It would if it was on the badge or touching the badge in some way and then it was being sold.
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As ask before have you got permission from the club who own the copyright and intellectual property rights yes or no ?
 
TONY_WARNERS_FACE. said:
For that reason alone I'm dead against this.

I'd rather nobody bought the shirts and the club got hit in the pocket. Where's the incentive for the club to stop this inane rebranding if ****ers are just gonna buy the shirt anyway?

A better idea would be to do what Blackpool and Newcastle fans are doing and releasing a completely different shirt.
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Generally I agree with you on this, and that is why for the last year or two I have worn my playfortheshirt 'We are Hull City' T-Shirt to the matches I have been to.

But I do also like the point HCST are trying to make - it'd be really great if they could make a close-as-genuine possible shirt without buying from the club or infringing property rights. Maybe something along the lines of the gold and green thing Man United fans did after the Glazers bought the club, (ie an unofficial shirt not bought from the club shop).
 
TONY_WARNERS_FACE. said:
For that reason alone I'm dead against this.

I'd rather nobody bought the shirts and the club got hit in the pocket. Where's the incentive for the club to stop this inane rebranding if ****ers are just gonna buy the shirt anyway?

A better idea would be to do what Blackpool and Newcastle fans are doing and releasing a completely different shirt.
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I'm hoping (perhaps against my better judgement) that the Allams are offering an olive branch. I'm thinking they have dropped the 'Hull Tigers' thing and in that case I'd be willing to accept a new way forward.

We've looked for a compromise from day one and as long as they wanted the name change, we were never going to budge a ****ing inch.

We do need to keep an eye on the rebranding, but you never know, that might just fade away. I think both sides are walking on egg shells now.

All we are saying, is give peace a chance...
 
Sunbeam-Tiger said:
As ask before have you got permission from the club who own the copyright and intellectual property rights yes or no ?
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I thought it was clear. As an individual and if you have purchased the shirt you are basically free to do what you wish with it in terms of putting marks on it e.g. if a player signs it or you rip the sleeves off it etc. The colours of the shirt are not subject to copyright, and so you can stick what you like on that or even change the shirt colours if you are clever enough. However, interfering with the crest/badge itself is subject to a copyright action as in addition, it would be physically changing the shirt makers logo, because that too is brand emblem. Adding the words Hull City, Hull City AFC or even I'm Harry the Hull City fan on any part of the shirt outside of the badge/crest border (which is the intellectual property part) is not an infringement as you have not changed the appearance of that crest. This is no more an issue than having a daft name printed on the back.
 
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Hull city afc(Kempton) said:
I'm hoping (perhaps against my better judgement) that the Allams are offering an olive branch. I'm thinking they have dropped the 'Hull Tigers' thing and in that case I'd be willing to accept a new way forward.

We've looked for a compromise from day one and as long as they wanted the name change, we were never going to budge a ****ing inch.

We do need to keep an eye on the rebranding, but you never know, that might just fade away. I think both sides are walking on egg shells now.

All we are saying, is give peace a chance...
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I'd like to think you're right, but whilst they may quietly and reluctantly drop the name change I cannot see any olive-branch or 'un-rebranding' happening. Even if crowds and income drop I think they're too stubborn to give an inch and will put all their hopes into a sale of the club.
 
Hull city afc(Kempton) said:
I'm hoping (perhaps against my better judgement) that the Allams are offering an olive branch. I'm thinking they have dropped the 'Hull Tigers' thing and in that case I'd be willing to accept a new way forward.

All we are saying, is give peace a chance...
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Altrincham Tiger said:
I'd like to think you're right, but whilst they may quietly and reluctantly drop the name change I cannot see any olive-branch or 'un-rebranding' happening. Even if crowds and income drop I think they're too stubborn to give an inch and will put all their hopes into a sale of the club.
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I think this may be a reason that Allam may offer some kind of temporary olive branch.

"For Championship clubs gate receipts account for about 70% of income. In the Premier League, it is 9%. That tells you everything, TV money is king"'

Right now he needs our money. If we get promoted we will become irrelevent again & "Hull Tigers" will rear it's ugly head once more.

Mid-table will do for me.
 
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Lincoln Tiger said:
I thought it was clear. As an individual and if you have purchased the shirt you are basically free to do what you wish with it in terms of putting marks on it e.g. if a player signs it or you rip the sleeves off it etc. The colours of the shirt are not subject to copyright, and so you can stick what you like on that or even change the shirt colours if you are clever enough. However, interfering with the crest/badge itself is subject to a copyright action as in addition, it would be physically changing the shirt makers logo, because that too is brand emblem. Adding the words Hull City, Hull City AFC or even I'm Harry the Hull City fan on any part of the shirt outside of the badge/crest border (which is the intellectual property part) is not an infringement as you have not changed the appearance of that crest. This is no more an issue than having a daft name printed on the back.
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I agree with most of that if you had bought your own shirt, but I think the problem is your buying however many shirts altering them and then re-selling them.
 
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