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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 19, 2015.

  1. Congleton_QPR

    Congleton_QPR Active Member

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  2. Congleton_QPR

    Congleton_QPR Active Member

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    To say people don't work hard in this country is a very sweeping and frankly insulting generalisation.
    Try doing 12 hour night shifts in manufacturing/production then tell me people don't work hard.
    Something tells me you would find that kind of work beneath you
     
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  3. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    I think this whole thread is based on boxing people up into convenient groups and then making sweeping generalisations. It could be easily argued that any group on the end of a negative generalisation would be insulted but most of the groups aren't represented on this forum.

    The fact that the majority group can feel aggrieved by a few throwing remarks back is a lesson at best and a fitting irony at worst.
     
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  4. sb_73

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    Some facts here. We may not be lazy, but we are not very productive. In fact we are 17% less productive than other developed economies, and 27% less than France. We beat Japan, but that's a country that has been in recession for 20 years and has a labour market which acts as a social welfare system with redundant jobs and over manning everywhere.

    http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/icp/i...y/2013---final-estimates/info-icp-feb-15.html
     
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  5. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of the usual own-country-hating crap on here I see.
    I'm always curious as to why those people who so obviously dislike their own country choose to still live here.
    Mmm.......I wonder.
     
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  6. Congleton_QPR

    Congleton_QPR Active Member

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    Hang on.
    Not wishing to pick a fight and fully prepared to be corrected if I have misinterpreted your post, but are you saying that the hard working people of this country are not allowed to be aggrieved at being called lazy and have it insinuated its their own fault that we have such immigration issues (by a guy who sits pontificating in France) as to mention it after expressing concerns over immigration would be far too ironic??
    BTW I would have no issue with any immigrant coming here to work, as I said way back in the thread for me its all about fitting in, better that than claim benefits or worse still trying to change our culture while plotting the countries downfall from within
     
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  7. KooPeeArr

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    My post was more aimed at this thread in general rather than an attack at workers.

    Because of the circumstances of this debate, it's only the posters who can make the generalisations and, in turn get offended by being on the receiving end.

    When it started, the sweeping statements went outwards at groups not represented and, quite predictably, after enough get thrown, some hit groups that do have a voice on here. Rest assured, by the time this one's over, most will have taken offence at something while vehemently defending their right to offend others through blanket assertions.

    I don't mean offence personally; I have no anger and am taking the role of by-stander flitting between being amused and saddened.
     
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  8. sb_73

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    I like the beer.
     
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  9. Congleton_QPR

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    Ok fair dos and I appreciate that it wasn't meant as a personal slight, but just to re affirm, I don't believe my standpoint on the OP is a negative generalisation of Muslims.
    I have at no point said all Muslims are bad or terrorists or anything.
    I would however imagine that most , if not all Muslims (even the moderate ones) would like as many mosques in Britain as possible, they would also like interest free mortgages to suit their religious needs, they would also like their women to wear muslim dress code and for us generally to accept their culture into our own.
    Personally speaking I don't think any of this is compatible with English culture and I don't think it should be forced upon us.
    Therefore as I don't feel I have generalised negatively , rather just pointed out a few truths I reserve the right to be offended at being generalised as a "lazy British worker" <ok>
     
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  10. qprbeth

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    my football team is here!
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    No, it was in 2007, that's less than ten years ago, that's when you falsely accused them of all being *****s's so you could strip them of their rights, (which the 'might' get back in 2022) homes and families, and sell the mineral rich land to mining corporations, because it was better than paying them for the mineral rights. a rich abo? unthinkable.
    That is modern day australia, you're a nation of smiling insipid nazi's, you complain about neo-nazi rallies, then go to the polls to vote for nazi policies. A backward and superficial nation, which is ironic when you consider you're descended from unwanted gin-sodden gutter-whores, maybe that's the problem.
     
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  12. WBA2_QPR3

    WBA2_QPR3 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting thread.

    Having spent upwards of 20 years working overseas, the majority of which in Malaysia, Egypt and now Qatar i have yet to experience any intolerance or prejudice against myself as a non-muslim. On the contrary i have been made to feel welcome and have made many firm Muslim friends.7

    Islam is much misunderstood in the Western world. I lay much of todays Islamaphobia in the UK squarely on successive governments belief in multiculturalism, which in my opinion panders to the worst elements of religious society of all faiths. That and a rabid tabloid media.

    We are now into Ramadam, a time of self reflection and evaluation of our own personal faiths.

    A time of hope.

    Ramadan Mubarak to you all.
     
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  13. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Now there's a sweeping statement
    I'm sure not all Aussies are descended from gin sodden gutter whores
     
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  14. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    You obviously feel strongly about this. What are you actually doing about it apart from posting on a forum focussed on English football, anonymously?
     
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  15. Swords Hoopster.

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    No them all but most of 'em probably are
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    not all, some were thieves as well, and maybe not all were gin sodden, but they're sill a nation of immigrant boat people who use violence and intimidation to force people to live their way.
     
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  17. TWGWTDT

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    I do when I work but my roots are in farming so I know both sides lads
    Stand by it as well this country talks a good job nowadays Of course everyone on here knows a grafter but hard work is not the same as it was no way ... The ethic has long gone
    We live in a comfort bubble
    The last of my family is probably working now and has only had one holiday in his life
    Saying all that have a look at catering
    Fractionally one up from slave labour
    Pick any mainstream catering brand happy with the service of UK residents working in that field ?
    Match them up with people from other countries working in the UK
    They have the ethic
     
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  18. TWGWTDT

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    In my experience

    Best builders German and Polish
    Take away Catering Asia China
    Best road workers France
    Best transport workers France
    Best restaurant service France Italy
    Best Taxi drivers Asia
    Best Managers UK
    Best talkers about work UK
    Best moaners UK
    We have offshored what we can in the UK every wondered why.... We don't want to work and if we did it would be too expensive and nothing would get done

    Best creatives UK
     
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  19. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    top at talking bollocks TWGWTDT
    Asian taxi drivers are some of the worst drivers on the road for a start and half of them are illegal
     
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    Didley Squat Well-Known Member

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    To continue this conversation with you would not be fair on someone with such limited intellect, so therefore, I will refrain from any further comment with the exception of saying, go back to your board, you are not welcome on ours.
     
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