i, like you, prefer people with no connections to the club. however, if they do have a connection but are the right man for the job, i don't see it makes much difference
Managerial decision to be made this week
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i, like you, prefer people with no connections to the club. however, if they do have a connection but are the right man for the job, i don't see it makes much difference
the one thing watford fans moaned about with zola was a 'lack of passion'. the one thing cardiff fans loved about malky was 'his passion'.
your argument is unbelievably flawed.
i like zola (one of my all time faves as a player) but would he actually get us promoted? he seems to come with the reasoning that he'd play good football and initially at watford (and west ham) he did that, but then it all fell apart very quickly at vicarage road. his cv is quite poor. do we want to go for a name or someone who might actually do a good job?
I'm not attracted to him because he is a 'name'; I'm attracted to him because I like his football philosophy. As I said, I have serious reservations about how well he can actually do a job (and especially how well he can sustain it), but I certainly don't want another round of the negative, over-conceptualised, fear-ridden football we have suffered for two years.
As for Watford fans complaining about his lack of passion, I wasn't aware of that. If it's true, it obviously puts another question mark over him. But he certainly played with passion, so I imagined (wrongly if you are correct) that he would manage in the same way.
its called a 'winning mentality'. and to be fair, he has got something about him that makes me think he'd be a decent appointment.
irrelevant though as it'll be malky
I think it's because he's a Lambert type manager, in tactics and in temperament. That type of discipline and structure worked before and the fans and players seem to respond to it.
i keep reading people worrying about fear-ridden football if malky comes in. that is not how he gets his teams to play. they are direct (which might actually suit us, it worked under lambert) and therefore not to everyones taste but his sides are not what you suggest we would get. we'd score goals, lots of goals, we'd play with out and out wide men. i understand some people want to watch free flowing, attractive football but if we want that then we have little no chance of finding a manager willing to come here and put that plan in place at the moment. even zola's side ended up playing long ball to deeney in the end. i just think some people need to reign in their special requirements and look at what the club actually need right now rather than what they'd like.
agree bath. he's also excellent in the transfer market. i notice he's lost his number two, mjallby though - he did a lot of the work. but as i say, irrelevant as i suspect we won't interest him now
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The thing about Malky is that I cannot see him being a complete success in the Premier League. Yes, he may well be able to get enough out of us to get us promoted next season, but beyond that I fear he may well experience a similar fate to Hughton.
However, I suppose the argument of 'one step at a time' may be pertinent here.
However, I suppose the argument of 'one step at a time' may be pertinent here.
Theres a lot to be said for the power of momentum here, Hughton had none whenever scored a lot of goals under his leader ship and ultimately that was the problem that defined our season. We need to start scoring goals again but once we do the confidence will hopefully return and the player will develop more confidence of the players around them too if that gets us promoted it will be like taking a running jump. If Hughton had taken us up I reckon that he would have produced a better team and understood our strengths and failings in the PL better.
I have no issues with Malky, i personally feel he is our best shot at getting back to the PL at first time of asking. The only draw bag i see mentioned is a question on his Premier League credentials. I think that should only be a worry if we get to the PL at first time of asking... statistics show it doesnt always happen for relegated teams and for that reason i think Malky is our best chance over 1 or 2 seasons in the Championship.
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Spent about £11.5mil in 2012/13 according to this:
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/c..._603_2012_default_default_alle_a_default.html
EDIT: and sold just under £1.5mil worth of players.
Agreed.
1/3 or so seems to be the chance of bouncing back up immediately for teams finishing 18th, 1/4 for all relegated teams and 1/2 that it will happen within 4 years (when parachute payments stop).
sounds about right
I read only one team has done it in the last 4 seasons, West Ham. Although Qpr / wigan have a good chance in the play off final.
most of the teams who have been relegated in the past four seasons are still in the second tier - blackpool, bolton, wolves, blackburn, reading etc
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I know he was only at West Brom for about 4 months, but he didn't really do much, so it'd be a no for me.
I'm coming round to the idea of Malky and Adams as number 2. Someone at work reckoned they saw Malky and Zola yesterday.
I think Albion stayed up because we let them !
