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Discussion in 'Watford' started by yellotoyou, May 13, 2013.

  1. yellotoyou

    yellotoyou Active Member

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    I see that Deeney got booked following his celebration of his goal yesterday because he took his shirt off. Of course I understand the ref had no option because of the FA/FIFA rules. But again I have to ask why does such a rule exist? Surely even the killjoys and moronic at the FA/FIFA must realise that somethings are beyond 'being in reasonable control' when it comes to ending a game such as we saw yesterday. Common sense must say that such a booking is needless and so far outside the 'spirit of the game' that it belongs in a monestry rather than on a football field. Am I correct in thinking that the reason such a rule exists is because its thought bare chests might offend some viewers. if thats so what do they do when swimming or wrestling or boxing or or or etc etc is on the tele? is it just me who thinks this booking players who take of their shirts in exuberance is an utter nonsense?
     
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  2. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    I have heard it explained that, at a time when all cameras are pointed at the scorer, the sponser's name on the shirt is paramount! The FA and FL have introduced this punishment to appease sponsors!
     
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  3. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    I think they should be booked in all honesty



























    I think it should be allowed in the ladies game though :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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  4. rudebwoy

    rudebwoy Well-Known Member

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    all about social control and corporate image ......sucks....
     
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  5. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    Not at all - I'm with you on that. Quite why the 'Poleon-against-Anya & Bond' type of offence can be viewed in the same light as a player taking his shirt off is totally beyond me.

    Having said that, I've absolutely no idea why players do take their shirts off after scoring a goal - a bit of a nonsense for mine.
     
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  6. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Could have got a red for starting a pitch invastion, I think he got off lightly. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  7. My Name Is D

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    Right on the money. (ha!)
    If Deeney scores the goal that gets us to Wembley, you can be damn sure Football Manager want to be written all over it.
     
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  8. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    It's a pathetic rule and as others have said is there for the sponsors alone - does anyone get booked for it in non league football - assuming anyone there ever took their shirts off - guess we should see if we can find a L*t*n fan to ask :)
     
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  9. canary-dave

    canary-dave Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Leo! Oh Lord it's hard to be humble4, when you're perfect in every way!

    ;)
     
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  10. Resurgam

    Resurgam Top Analyst
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    He was lucky. If I took my shirt off, I wouldn't just get a yellow card. I'd be banned for life <yikes> <wah>
     
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  11. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter and who cares? Player will take his shirt off and jump into a bus-stop with 3 people in it!
     
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  12. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member
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    gotta admit, i rather like it when the shirts come off ;)
     
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  13. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    well if you need a hand anytime <smooch>
     
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  14. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    Tart! ;)

    I've got mine off right now - but I suspect that seeing the spectacle would change your mind for you.......:(
     
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  15. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    Surprised H you dont argue for shorts as well <eek>
     
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  16. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it's a rule made for female footballers....:emoticon-0116-evilg
     
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  17. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    Apparently it was after Ryan Giggs scored that brilliant solo effort against Arsenal in the FA cup. Apparently his hairy chest traumatised young viewers!:emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  18. Jsybarry

    Jsybarry Well-Known Member

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    I would've thought that it was due to some sort of decency thing in certain countries. If was to do with sponsors, wouldn't it be unpunishable in international football? That is unless you count the kit manufacturer as a sponsor.
     
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  19. Hornet-Fez

    Hornet-Fez Well-Known Member

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    From Law 12: Fouls & Misconduct

    Celebration of a goal
    While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal has been
    scored, the celebration must not be excessive.
    Reasonable celebrations are allowed, but the practice of choreographed
    celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive time-wasting
    and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.

    A player must be cautioned if:
    • in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are provocative,
    derisory or inflammatory
    • he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being scored
    • he removes his shirt or covers his head with his shirt
    • he covers his head or face with a mask or other similar item
    Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence in itself
    but it is essential that players return to the field of play as soon as possible.
    Referees are expected to act in a preventative manner and to exercise common
    sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal.
    (my italics)

    So there you have it. It is the same law for everyone (I have cautioned for this myself on at least two occasions) no conspiracy for sponsors, PL or anyone else... it is designed to stop inflammatory situations. Deeney took his shirt off and jumped over the wall into the crowd. You cannot argue with it alas...

    That said, the referee did not really excercise much in the way of common sense (we obviously cannot expect Troy to do so... be honest now...) because how anyone could expect anything other than that celebration is beyond me... "over-celebration", just how is that possible? This caution, though correct in law, just serves to highlight the flaws in Mr Osborne's game and every other referee when this easy punishment is given and obvious more important mistakes (like the utterly rubbish penalty decision in the first place) are made. It's not easy for us.
     
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  20. HampshireHornet

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    I suspect that it would be for everyone if written better and said he or she, strictly speaking this doesn't aplly to female players unless theres a weasley caveat hidden in the small print.
     
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