That's possible- although- we never had much animosity with Arsenal. Liverpool and Arsenal fans (used to) have admiration for each other... in recent years, since Liverpool started having troubles, I've noticed a lot of Arsenal fans have started escalating the rivalry for some odd reason (not just Arsenal fans... a lot of formerly non-rival clubs have started acting cocky and WUMish... kick 'em whilst they're down mentality). Perhaps because our problems make them feel less conscious of their own... but by-and-by despite being strong at similar times- Arsenal and Liverpool have never really hated each other. I still regard Arsenal as a "friend" club and respect them the most of the London clubs. I'm sure, were we to pick ourselves up to City level (confident its not going to happen in the next 3 years and predicting the future beyond that in football is ludicrous) it is possible that we could develop a fierce rivalry with City... but it could be more like our rivalry with Arsenal- more respectful than heated. Depends on many factors. I don't think Liverpool really holds any animosity to City at all. I remember when City first came to wealth- the City board on the old 606 was full of people- City fans ecstatic... most rival fans were bashing them for being suddely rich lots of "small club wanting to buy the league comments"- but most Liverpool fans on the City board were congratulating them and pretty much saying "if it isn't us- glad it's you" kind of thing. I found it touching that Liverpool's fans were actively standing up for City at the time... one of those moments proud of being a Liverpool fan- when my fellow Liverpool fans were sticking up for others who were under-siege. With the Liverpool-Chelsea rivalry it comes down to one factor. Mourinho. Mourinho actively tried to provoke and annoy Liverpool; his arrogance and "pseudo-nobility" attitude really irked on Liverpool's working class base. If any other manager had presided over Chelsea during their heyday the rivalry between Chelsea and Liverpool might not have been what it is.
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I've heard all that stuff before. Neither Liverpool or Everton have Protestant or Catholic origins, both are actually Methodist clubs. Liverpool were formed by a member of the Orange Order, John McKenna, and Everton originated out of St Domingos Methodist church, hence Everton being formally known as St Domingos. Liverpool and Everton fans from what I've heard state that their religion is Liverpool and Everton and not Protestant and Catholic. However recently the more Catholic club in Liverpool recently from what I've been made to believe is actually Liverpool.
I don't disagree Mourinho is talented when he has vast sums of money to spend. With some exceptions- he doesn't really discover anyone- he just buys people already at their peak. Which is fine when you have Chelsea, or Real Madrid money. He is a very talented coach nonetheless- and I'm sure he could get the best out of our players were he to be our manager. I don't like him though from a personality basis. I never have. In fact, I dislike him more than any other manager- more than Fergie... more than Keane... more than Redknapp... more than Allardyce... I would be appalled if we signed Mourinho. It would show complete disregard for the Liverpool fans. I'd try to support him- just as I would Owen if he were to sign- but I would be appalled. I think most Liverpool fans hate Mourinho too. I doubt that he would be able to replicate the success he's had elsewhere were he to join us.
Mourinho has a massive ego, it was once said that Jose Mourinho was in a love triangle with two mirrors. However with todays footballers, you've got to have a bigger ego than them. As for Mourinho being extremely arrogant, most of the greatest ever managers were arrogant, so that can't really be thrown at him.
Trying to find an identity eh? As for the second part I dont really know. I suppose its the opposite in Liverpool or rather on Merseyside. You have a term for the scouse wannabes dont you? Wool is it?
Nah thats wannabe Liverpool. Manchester United and Manchester United fans have always wanted to be/support the most successful club in England, the only way they can is becoming Liverpool or supporting Liverpool.
They've wanted so long to achieve as much as Liverpool, for decades, that's why they have turned into total arseholes since getting the 18th. It's like the guy you beat 99 out of a 100 times playing PES. You win and be quiet about it, but when the guy wins his 1 out of 100 games he's all screaming Yeah and all up in your grill because of the repressed bile of watching you win for so long We do tend to stick to ourselves mostly as we're all long term fans. Half that lot bought City season tickets this year hence the slow sales of United season tickets so expect the rivalry to increase as more mancs switch to City if they bag another title they will start to take chelski fans too
They really became arse-holes when they won their 19th. All you hear from a United fan is ''19, 19 ,19''. My response is 35, thats how many years it took them to overtake us on titles. 1976-2011.
If the NHS is the greatest demonstration of the civilisation of a nation then the fact that religion has not been allowed to disfigure the support of either Liverpool or Everton has to be a close second.
Agreed. The reason why religion doesn't come into play is, how can members of the same family be two different religions? Its well known that you could have a family of 4 with two red and two blue. Steven Gerrard has Everton supporting relatives, Phil Thompson had a Everton supporting dad who was a merchant sailor and his mum was a Liverpool fan.
Pretty **** response then eh? Are you aware that 19 is a bigger number than 18? Do you know in a race being first on lap 18 means **** all if the race finishes on lap 19? The fact you have been stuck on 18 for donkeys years should be a cause for concern. Its almost certainly not going to increase in ther next 5 years, probably not the next 10. Would you bet your life against United not winning any more titles before Liverpool do? Reckon come 2050 Liverpool will still be below 20 and United on their way to number 30
Reckon come 2050 Liverpool will still be below 20 and United on their way to number 30 Close to 30? Hmm.... Doubtful.
6 titles in the next 18 years would put us close to 30 albeit quite a way away. Just because Liverpool fell away into nothingness after decades of success doesnt mean thats how it works.
