Meh. 44 matchday squads he's not been available for in just two seasons. About 1 in 3 games he's been injured for.Again, he still has a unique profile and has proven his quality when he's on the pitch. You're exaggerating his unavailability slightly. He made 26 appearances in the league and started in 24 of those. So clearly Arteta trusts him enough to start him when he's there.
We should be expecting more than £50m for him, which would be breaking even. £70m or get lost should be the message.
Are you forgetting we paid £27m for an 18 year old William Saliba and punted him from pillar to post before giving him a chance?!Looks like this one is on the verge of happening then.
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If we are willing to spend £10m-£15m on a 16-year old, we must be confident that he will be in and around the 1st team because there's no way we'd pay that price for a kid just to put him in the U21s.
No thank you. Next !Looks like we are interested in Barcola too.
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Hmm.. the reality is that Calafiori played more minutes than any of PSG's starting 11.If we got offered £75m, I think we should absolutely sell.
He's a quality player, but his fitness hasn't always been reliable and that will always be a concern when it comes to him.
£75m would represent great value for money and, as good as he is, I don't think he's irreplaceable, especially with his injury concerns.
To be fair we know Berta contacts multiple players for positions he's looking to fill. It's a weird strategy but I guess this way he gets some idea of price and the players intentions before bidding for anyone.No thank you. Next !
It has nothing to do with being entrenched, I am not a yo-yo unlike some, cough cough Jay, cough cough !
He has been **** and I want to see better, simple as that, winning the league does not excuse all the ****tiness, not least because all it will take is a semi competent team next season to overtake us if we continue with this bullcrap football.
Thats the overriding fear I have, thats why I keep stressing the point - it all depends on what version of Arteta turns up next season. Will our competitors be as **** as they were this season?! The last third of the season you had turned on Arteta Jay, be thankful that City fell off and dropped points. I refuse to mask Arteta's deficiencies of the past 2 seasons, I want him to address them!
What? From that post.Looks like we are interested in Barcola too.
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When I am wrong I say I am wrong. Im not wrong in this case. You have based your entire argument on winning the league is enough, nope, that doesn't erase all the bullshit he did and continued to do (24% possession in the biggest club tournament final in the world).I'm guessing the opposite of 'Yoyo-ing' is never admitting to being wrong and refusing to change even in the face of evidence. (like a League Title)
When I am wrong I say I am wrong. Im not wrong in this case. You have based your entire argument on winning the league is enough, nope, that doesn't erase all the bullshit he did and continued to do (24% possession in the biggest club tournament final in the world).
I want better, he got lucky this season. He can prove me wrong by winning the league again.
I'm guessing the opposite of 'Yoyo-ing' is never admitting to being wrong and refusing to change even in the face of evidence. (like a League Title)
No - my Argument was always 'we've been at the top level for 3-4 Seasons now, the only argument against him is he hasn't won a trophy'.When I am wrong I say I am wrong. Im not wrong in this case. You have based your entire argument on winning the league is enough, nope, that doesn't erase all the bullshit he did and continued to do (24% possession in the biggest club tournament final in the world).
I want better, he got lucky this season. He can prove me wrong by winning the league again.
Exactly.No - my Argument was always 'we've been at the top level for 3-4 Seasons now, the only argument against him is he hasn't won a trophy'.
Now he has.
Only to pathetic Arteta-ists! Thats 2 finals we didnt go to play football in, cowardly tactics by a cowardly manager, but but but.The possession in the CL final argument is just getting old already - it's just pure cope HH and you are usually a lot better than that.
We could easily have had more possession in the game by passing it around the midfield and defence, but Arteta decided to play a different way.
He is best positioned to determine how we need to play.
We won a title and were a pen shootout away from winning the CL.
Seriously mate - drop the Arteta silliness. He just won a title and ended all debate on whether he has the ability to get us over the line.
Going unbeaten for the entire CL tournament and only losing a final on pens also makes it clear he knows exactly what he is doing.
Nah don't try it, we are complaining about the extremity of 24%, its not normal, its a record low. I don't recall fans this season complaining about possession at all so that's a strawman argument Jay!The big irony here is that the fans who cant get past the dislike of Arteta are also the ones, usually, to moan about possession meaning nothing when we dont win a game after having dominated possession.
Thats your argument NOW that I called it/you out.No - my Argument was always 'we've been at the top level for 3-4 Seasons now, the only argument against him is he hasn't won a trophy'.
Now he has.
He is not even the best manager of London clubs let alone walking into any manager job!Exactly.
There is no more argument other than will Arteta go down as a great manager for Arsenal or an elite legend.
He attains the latter if he wins another one or the CL.
Only 8 men have led Arsenal to a top flight title in our 140 years history
Herbert Chapman - 2
Joe Shaw - 1
George Allison - 2
Tom Whittaker - 2
Bertie Mee - 1
George Graham - 2
Arsene Wenger - 3
Mikel Arteta - 1
Only 5 men have done it more than once.
Only 13 men from ALL CLUBS have won a Premier League title. Arteta is now one of those 13.
He is also the 2nd youngest manager to win a PL title. Mourinho is the only man who was younger and he did with financial fraud support from the owner.
He is also the ONLY manager to win the PL title with a club he played for.
Arteta has a chance now to go on and become not just Arsenal's greatest ever manager , but one of the greatest managers of all time - because he has built a foundation that can genuinely win a lot of titles he's won the title so young.
We will likely be favourites to win it next year, which is a position we have not been in often. What is even more remarkable is how Arteta has changed the club culture from top to bottom and united the fans. It's a truly remarkable job he's done.
Right now he walks into any team in the world as their manager.
He could, for example, have the City job just by picking up the phone.
He is without doubt the number one signing for us this summer - in terms of extending his contract.