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I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
 
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I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
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A lot of them think it makes them look good or ****ing hard picking on people who are different to them they don’t like it and use the words to insult anyone,when inside they are pathetic weak ass oles.
 
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I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
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I hear a fair amount of homophobic stuff at City, both home and away, but no more than i hear at other games in other sports and even in daily life.

I cannot imagine how you must feel hearing things like that and can only commend you for not reacting to it.
 
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HCAFCTiger said:
I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
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It’s a shame I can’t give a post 100 likes.
 
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I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
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Do you think the punishment matched the crime?

On one hand we have arrests for homophobic chants at the Chelsea game but a word in the ear for an audible homophobic slur at the game you were at?

Surely there are rules within the Club and the EFL(at the time) that dictate that the offender should've been ejected for their behaviour?
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Do you think the punishment matched the crime?

On one hand we have arrests for homophobic chants at the Chelsea game but a word in the ear for an audible homophobic slur at the game you were at?

Surely there are rules within the Club and the EFL(at the time) that dictate that the offender should've been ejected for their behaviour?
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Should have put his face up on the screen and said can you please stop the Homophobic slurs please, he would have probably just left in shame.
 
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I was at the Chelsea game in W12 and witnessed a group of Chelsea fans, guess ages? from 20's to 40's spend all the game stood as close to the City fans as possible then goading and insulting anyone who made eye contact. One young City fan took exception and gave them some back, which resulted in even more insults from the Chelsea fans, not one of them were even looking at the action on the pitch all game. Stewards eventually came along, then police, and the one City fan was thrown out. He could have been one of those arrested? Nothing happened to the Chelsea idiots who on the final whistle reached across the dividing fence and wanted to shake peoples hands. Maybe they knew the cameras were on them by then?
Back in the day at Boothferry Park v Chelsea, a couple of times, this type were in the crowd amongst us, no colours, just infiltrating amongst the City fans until they found an easy target to thump. Some got away with it, others were spotted before they could hit some poor innocent soul, I witnessed that too and they got some of their own medicine. Certainly one of the reasons our crowds took a dip around that time too, as mentioned in another thread earlier. That particular problem has all but been erased inside football grounds today.
Thankfully football has changed for the better and we don't often see that now. I haven't seen or witnessed 'away fans' infiltrating our stands since we moved to the new stadium, and before that it had even become a rarity at Boothferry Park but common place throughout the 70's.
So I'm not at ease with the club as a whole being made scapegoats and the criminal charges brought against four people for racist or homophobic chants in a crowd of 20,000 plus. Not that I'm condoning the chanting either.
I was at the game as I said and I honestly never heard any of those chants but I did hear some of the vicious insults thrown at young City fans and some with young families of school age by these Chelsea fans and no action was taken against them.
Sympathies too to the City fan above who posted. I too was in a similar situation and it became very uncomfortable for all concerned. That too incidentally involved Chelsea, at Leeds, and I was there, wrong place at the wrong time with three other fellas who were subject to some appalling abuse in the stands, not because of their sexuality but because they were Italian!
 
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HCAFCTiger said:
I’ve been a long time reader of this forum for years, and don’t usually comment - but as a gay man and long-time season pass holder, I’ve found myself quietly reflecting about this story a lot over the last few days.

I wasn’t at the game in question and don’t know the chanting being referred to, but it reminds me of an incident at the MKM earlier in the season that the club handled exceptionally well.

Throughout the first half of a match, a fan seated a few rows behind me repeatedly called one of the opposition players a ‘fa*got’, in a way that made me wince a little inside. Nobody challenged him on this and to be fair, I didn’t either - I’ve been to enough football matches and I’ve heard much worse over the years. My sister, however - always one to stand up for what she thinks is right - decided to speak to a steward about the incident at half time, although we didn’t know exactly where the individual was sitting.

I know the stewards at the stadium are often maligned, but they took the information, placed a steward at the front of the stand, and quietly watched the crowd during the second half. When the incident happened again, he discreetly acknowledged my sister, and a steward discreetly had a word with the individual concerned. The chanting stopped and that was the end of the matter.

I share this because there’s obviously a huge amount to be proud of about the club at the moment - Wembley will stay with me and my family forever. But for me, that one moment and action taken by the club also made me deeply proud to be from Hull and follow Hull City - and restored my faith that the game and society are slowly moving in the right direction.

It saddens me that there are still small sections of football supporters and wider society who are intolerant of others or don’t realise the impact their words can have. It saddens me that I have many LGBT friends who don’t follow football, because, probably coloured by their experiences at school, they still think football stadiums aren’t places for people like them. And it saddens me that, statistically on average, at least one member of our own squad will be gay, but clearly still cannot be open about that publicly. I like to think that in 2026 and seeing the camaraderie in our squad, they’re open with their teammates, and nobody cares.

Football has given me some of the most joyous moments of my life, including that extra-time, winning goal just over a week ago. I hope that in future, nobody feels the need to self-exclude from the game because of who they are and who they love.
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Despite being sad to read your experience, I'm delighted that the club took action.

The problem with the Chelsea chant is there's too many people who don't think its serious enough to warrant punishment. I agree that punishing the club over a small handful of chanters feels excessive, but how else do you tackle it?
 
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So the chant at the Chelsea game results in 4 people arrested and the club charged.
Presumably for it to be labelled a chant a larger group of people were doing this which raises the questions why only 4 arrests and just how do they expect the club to stop it?
The club can and did stop an individual as explained above and should be commended for doing so.
 
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Drew said:
Despite being sad to read your experience, I'm delighted that the club took action.

The problem with the Chelsea chant is there's too many people who don't think its serious enough to warrant punishment. I agree that punishing the club over a small handful of chanters feels excessive, but how else do you tackle it?
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Tackle those chanting perhaps, and show some consistency?
It's unfair on the club and on the rest of the supporters.
It's like when I was working, we'd never send out blanket emails for occasional wrong doings if we knew who the culprit(s) was(were).
 
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I was at the Chelsea game in W12 and witnessed a group of Chelsea fans, guess ages? from 20's to 40's spend all the game stood as close to the City fans as possible then goading and insulting anyone who made eye contact. One young City fan took exception and gave them some back, which resulted in even more insults from the Chelsea fans, not one of them were even looking at the action on the pitch all game. Stewards eventually came along, then police, and the one City fan was thrown out. He could have been one of those arrested? Nothing happened to the Chelsea idiots who on the final whistle reached across the dividing fence and wanted to shake peoples hands. Maybe they knew the cameras were on them by then?
Back in the day at Boothferry Park v Chelsea, a couple of times, this type were in the crowd amongst us, no colours, just infiltrating amongst the City fans until they found an easy target to thump. Some got away with it, others were spotted before they could hit some poor innocent soul, I witnessed that too and they got some of their own medicine. Certainly one of the reasons our crowds took a dip around that time too, as mentioned in another thread earlier. That particular problem has all but been erased inside football grounds today.
Thankfully football has changed for the better and we don't often see that now. I haven't seen or witnessed 'away fans' infiltrating our stands since we moved to the new stadium, and before that it had even become a rarity at Boothferry Park but common place throughout the 70's.
So I'm not at ease with the club as a whole being made scapegoats and the criminal charges brought against four people for racist or homophobic chants in a crowd of 20,000 plus. Not that I'm condoning the chanting either.
I was at the game as I said and I honestly never heard any of those chants but I did hear some of the vicious insults thrown at young City fans and some with young families of school age by these Chelsea fans and no action was taken against them.
Sympathies too to the City fan above who posted. I too was in a similar situation and it became very uncomfortable for all concerned. That too incidentally involved Chelsea, at Leeds, and I was there, wrong place at the wrong time with three other fellas who were subject to some appalling abuse in the stands, not because of their sexuality but because they were Italian!
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Were the Chelsea fans demanding a cappuccino after lunchtime or that their street food carbonara be made with cream?
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Tackle those chanting perhaps, and show some consistency?
It's unfair on the club and on the rest of the supporters.
It's like when I was working, we'd never send out blanket emails for occasional wrong doings if we knew who the culprit(s) was(were).
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You'd be surprised how many organisations lean towards collective bolockings as opposed to dealing with the route cause nowadays.

Obviously digressing a bit from the topic here but my young Grandsons primary school recently sent a circular home to every parent(300 letters maybe) regarding the use of E-Scooters to and from school...There was only one kid doing it and it would have been much easier pulling the parent to one side and telling him.

My Daughter handed it back to the headmistress and told her to do her job properly!!
 
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You'd be surprised how many organisations lean towards collective bolockings as opposed to dealing with the route cause nowadays.

Obviously digressing a bit from the topic here but my young Grandsons primary school recently sent a circular home to every parent(300 letters maybe) regarding the use of E-Scooters to and from school...There was only one kid doing it and it would have been much easier pulling the parent to one side and telling him.

My Daughter handed it back to the headmistress and told her to do her job properly!!
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SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THE JOLLIES ... trips to WC in 5 star, business class if not first class eats, expenses for entertaining... etc.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Tackle those chanting perhaps, and show some consistency?
It's unfair on the club and on the rest of the supporters.
It's like when I was working, we'd never send out blanket emails for occasional wrong doings if we knew who the culprit(s) was(were).
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To be fair, they are showing consistency, we're at least the sixth club in the last three years to be fined for the rent boys chant against Chelsea.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Do you think the punishment matched the crime?

On one hand we have arrests for homophobic chants at the Chelsea game but a word in the ear for an audible homophobic slur at the game you were at?

Surely there are rules within the Club and the EFL(at the time) that dictate that the offender should've been ejected for their behaviour?
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To be fair, I don’t know if he was ejected or not - I just know the comments stopped, and I didn’t even turn around to see what happened. I had a game to watch.

I just remember coming away from the ground being impressed with the way the club handled it.
 
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