It seems that the more I hear about the sad saga, the less I know about it. Nothing coming from the Club themselves is astonishing.
Yeah I'm very much in the circle the wagons stage of grief now. Embrace the hatred, what were we known for before this? Oh yeah losing 9-0 twice
I don't give a **** if we're hated, if it encourages our fans to shed the plucky little family club moniker I'm all for it. Deal with our **** internally. Fire Parsons, fire/don't fire Tonda (I don't give a ****) throw as much ****ing money as PSR will allow for next seasons squad and start really firing back with our own media stories, stop the naivety and actually fight.
**** the EFL
**** Boro
*edited to add, make St Mary’s as unwelcoming as possible for away fans. Dont serve them alcohol, get rid of all TVs/fan zones for them. Do everything to make it a miserable place to
And that's my point we should have. Parsons rolled over like a good little doggySaints had no objections to the people on the panel, let's not go down that route. We got caught, tried to lie our way out of it and got what we deserved. We ****ed up the hearing by not taking it seriously enough, our fate is entirely of our own doing and all of my anger is still aimed at Parsons and co.
As in we should have questioned who was on the panel? I feel like it's semantics at that point, based on what's come out, I don't see how a different panel would have made a different decision. I'm not sure on some of the finer details but we appealed to a different panel didn't we who agreed?And that's my point we should have. Parsons rolled over like a good little doggy
Almost certainly wouldn't have made the blindest bit of difference, but we got a whole 2 points shaved off for being compliant. Should have totally ****ed them about instead if that's all it was worthAs in we should have questioned who was on the panel? I feel like it's semantics at that point, based on what's come out, I don't see how a different panel would have made a different decision. I'm not sure on some of the finer details but we appealed to a different panel didn't we who agreed?
I would support that approach. But I am not sure how many of the players wouldI know we are all fuming, and I don't expect this to happen in the slighest, but how would everyone feel if Tonda apologised and said the only way to make things right is on the pitch.
Then we start next season like we finished this one and are competing at top for automatics.
Would people still refuse to go to games, or if it looked like he was taking us up, would we forgive him as we ultimately got there anyway?
Thought his statement was pretty terrible as an unbiased observer. They should all have the decency to walk.More I think about it, the more I’m keen on Parsons going before Tonda.
Thought his statement was pretty terrible as an unbiased observer. They should all have the decency to walk.
I do wonder what would have happened had this emerged a bit later and you won today.His statement was appalling. Basically amounted to "Oh but look at Chelsea and Luton doe!!!" and saying we had a £200m punishment when we still had a game to win.
Him trying to minimize the Luton punishment just cos of the finance aspect was pathetic. Dropping out of the EFL is a much bigger deal than missing out on promotion.
I do wonder what would have happened had this emerged a bit later and you won today.
Unfortunately for me personally, the stink is still there and if it's true he A) didn't know the rules well enough to know what he did was wrong and B) pressured staff to do things they didn't want to do, then I don't really wish to support a club that fosters that sort of culture just because things are going okay.I know we are all fuming, and I don't expect this to happen in the slighest, but how would everyone feel if Tonda apologised and said the only way to make things right is on the pitch.
Then we start next season like we finished this one and are competing at top for automatics.
Would people still refuse to go to games, or if it looked like he was taking us up, would we forgive him as we ultimately got there anyway?
I couldn't care less if other fans like us. As I said the other day that's a skate mentality imo.Maybe I'm in the minority, but I've never been overly concerned whether other fans or the media like us or not. I'd almost prefer to be "hated" so the players and manager can use that as fuel throughout the season.
Fan's still like and support players/club managers that have actually commited crimes that are serious i.e. sexual assault or manslaughter which is insane.
Hull would have been awarded the Premier League place by default.I do wonder what would have happened had this emerged a bit later and you won today.
Yes, interesting, likely us expelled leaving Hull to go through.I do wonder what would have happened had this emerged a bit later and you won today.